|
Author |
Message |
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
Posted: 12:54 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Okay, I conceed the point about more liukely to be infected if vaccinated but thats probably down to taking more risks because they are vaccinated. |
Maybe. I agree to an extent.
Although my triple vaxxed parents are still mainly hiding away and wear masks indoors when I visit, sitting in the conservatory, with a window open, even though I have recent, full natural immunity and LFT test several times a week, after coming in contact with large groups.
A lot of vaxxed, in the 70+ group, you'd expect to be still cautious, mainly, like my Mum, because she believes the Project Fear sh1te the Daily Nail reeds her every day.
The riskier groups? I'd say under 30, not over 30 personally.
Go on public transport and it's over 40's wearing masks, not often under 30's.
There was a theory backed by many, now ostracised medical professionals and virologists, who claimed something about the vaccine causing people to shed spike proteins, making them more
likely to test positive and even spread the Delta strains of the virus more than those not vaccinated.
Of course, all the Google hits now only follow the pro vaxx agenda of the large pharma, so the only traces left of this story are ones discrediting the theory, much like Ivermectin. Anything which stands large pharma to lose out on Billions of profit is reversed, attacked, discredited and removed from large tech media. $$$$
For whatever reason, there's a definite trend here and it backs that theory up. Risk, though, as you say is another, but the age groups to me don't support that as much.
Last edited by Andy Perrett on 13:44 - 19 Oct 2021; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because it has a low rating (Abusive). Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
Posted: 14:28 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard wrote: |
And herein is the rub.
The majority unvaccinated are anti-vaxxers like yourself. |
What is an anti-vaxxer? I'm all for it for what it was designed for and originally pitched as, to protect the old and vulnerable. I never remember agreeing to mass vaccination including 12 year olds, who stand more chance of serious illness or death from the cure than the virus.
Which brings us nicely on to...
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | There's a high correlation between anto-vax and conspiricy nutter. |
Your narrative fed brainwashing has been to discredit anyone who doesn't follow the narrative. A few months ago, people who said Big Buffon would extend lockdown until late summer were classed as swivel eyed loons. Then after that, a few months back, mention of a domestic passport had you laughed at by the herd.
Not conspiracies now are they?
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | So the same pool of people are likely not to report a positive test because of 'the information I have to provide'. |
You've got to be a bit thick to want to give the government more personal information than you need to.
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | This on top of the fact that the vast majority of people not testing unless symptomatic will skew the numbers. |
Testing is a bit of a load of nonsense anyway. We do far more of it than most other countries and we don't even follow the manufacturers advice on cycles for PCR, ignoring them and making the test far, far, more sensitive than it was designed to be.
The more you test, the more positive cases you can report to the hoards of Twitter Furlough users desperate for another lockdown. because they've grown too idle to go back to work.
The only stats which really matter are hospitalisations due to Covid and deaths (even though these are misleading as they involve non Covid deaths and those with underlying conditions, who would have died of flu anyway).
Did you know PHE recorded zero cases of flu last winter? Guess what they will have been instead?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-cases-covid-england-phe-latest-b1805124.html
Hhmmmmm.... |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because it has a low rating (Abusive). Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Islander |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Islander World Chat Champion
Joined: 05 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because it has a low rating (Abusive). Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
Posted: 16:05 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | If.you say they are useless stats why are you using them to put forward the principle that vaccinated get infected at a higher rate? |
Dude, it's you believing all the sh1te the Davos government are feeding you, not me. Either way, it's showing that of those reported to Big Buffoon, twice the RATE over 30 are at least double pricked and counting. Something is amiss here.
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | I see you are a Trump support btw, with the 'stop testing and it goes away'.
Yet another conspiricy nutter bingo box checked. How long till I get a full house? |
Your idea of "conspiracy" is someone capable of free thought, which doesn't fit the narrative you are fed and obey from the large tech
Davos owned media.
I presume you actually think Boris is in charge of this further left than Blair's Labour and further Green than Dianne Abbots vadge, lame effort of a Tory party? The Tory party who's idea of "getting tough on illegal immigration amounts to setting up a slick Gimmedat importing operation, capable of importing, transferring and hotelling daily, over 1,000 fighting age, Muslim Gimmedat, mainly males, who hate us and all we stand for other than the DSS.
Trump or Biden..... Anyone who prefers Biden and is in the UK is as thick as mince. He's anti British, thinks he's Irish and we persecute them still, is senile, clearly only a puppet for the WEF masters, takes 12 fecking Globemaster planes and Air Force 1 to fly himself and a 46 effing car motorcade to Scotland to invent ways of taxing the plebs if they dare fly or drive.
The senile old sh1t is a fecking moron. At least Trump didn't go to war with anyone, brokered a Middle East peace deal which is now in tatters under Biden's handlers, entered into conversation with North Korea and saw China for what they are, a massive threat to Western Democracy. The US economy performed very well under Trump.
Trump is a bit of a dick, but to want Biden in charge of the largest economy and super power is akin to chopping off your penis to stop you worrying about an annoying and painful cut on your finger.
The problem is that the media runs Western Society (fuel shortage anyone?) and is on the whole, getting further left wing and owned by a smaller and smaller group of very powerful left wing loons. They have huge influence on politics and are trying to kill off anyone right of centre from having a voice.
Trump silenced from Twitter on bullsh1t reasons, yet the fecking Taliban have an account! Come on, smell the coffee. During massive political posturing in the US election, they keep accidentally banning Trump and posted "discredit" messages under anything he posted.
The democrats had a free reign to post lies with no come back.
People like you, live your life based on what the media, from Google to the Guardian, tell you to. Now very little of it reaches the audience with an impartial view, that is the scariest thing we face as a culture.
I gave up TV, papers etc ages ago. Am banned from Twitter and usually banned from Facebook. The last reason was for pointing out that belittling someone for having a certain colour of skin made them a racist. Apparently that made me the racist, as the victim was a middle aged man with high blood pressure, so opposite rules apply.
Last edited by Andy Perrett on 16:16 - 19 Oct 2021; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 16:14 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Cable Tie wrote: | Nobby the Bastard wrote: | If.you say they are useless stats why are you using them to put forward the principle that vaccinated get infected at a higher rate? |
Dude, it's you believing all the sh1te the Davos government are feeding you, not me. Either way, it's showing that of those reported to Big Buffoon, twice the RATE over 30 are at least double pricked and counting. Something is amiss here.
|
Erm....
Cable Tie wrote: | [
Over 30, vaccinated people are in many age groups almost twice as likely to catch COVID than unvaccinated. I’ve linked to the week 40 ONS figures.
Pointing out that they get lower symptoms is irrelevant to this fact.
The vaccinated are now the super spreaders and many have very little protection left with another prick or two. My double vaxxed sister is still very ill from it, having caught it just after me. It appears my immune system p1ssed on her AZ/Pfi$er cocktail.
|
Cable Tie wrote: | Nobby the Bastard wrote: | You are relying on the stat which you have admitted that you have consciously skewed.
You failed to report the infection that you said yourself you had. |
Like I said, the tested positive stats are effing useless and nothing more than a way for the government pushing an ineffective leaky vaccine, to the vast majority, so they can then introduce the Citizen ID app off the back of a mandatory Covid Vaxx Pass app. It's already happening in Wales, both you and I know it will be "with deep regret" introduced to England and NI in a few weeks when the bullsh1t figures carry on climbing.
|
Make your mind up on whether the stats are any good or not. ____________________ trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Sprint ST 1050 |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Ribenapigeon |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Ribenapigeon Super Spammer
Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
WD Forte |
This post is not being displayed .
|
WD Forte World Chat Champion
Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because it has a low rating (Abusive). Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
Posted: 19:36 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Cable Tie wrote: | My double vaxxed sister is still very ill from it, having caught it just after me. |
let me guess. You didn't self-isolate because 'it's just flu, innit'? |
Of course I did you fuckwit.
I caught it 2 weeks before her and have not seen her for a month.
Her middle son brought it back from school and has had it too.
I got mine from an away day football day out. One of our group on the train had flown back in from Greece that morning. He was double pricked and gave it to 5 of the group.
He knew about it when his PCR came back positive on the Monday. The rest of us got symptoms Tuesday and Wednesday.
I had full on Delta symptoms fir a week and a half. Fever, shivers, nasty headache, bastardised taste and smell, chest infection, unable to eat for almost a week, O2 sat levels dropped into the late 70’s% at the peak.
I carried on testing and started showing negative LFT’s again around 2 weeks after infection. I still did not have any contact for the best part of another week, just to be safe. I LFT test twice a week anyway.
The vaccines may have lowered my symptoms, but having had it full blown and having fought it naturally and won, my antibodies will be far more effective on the latest strains than an outdated, leaky vaccine now needing extra shots every 3 months.
Last edited by Andy Perrett on 19:41 - 19 Oct 2021; edited 2 times in total |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Andy Perrett |
This post is not being displayed because it has a low rating (Abusive). Unhide this post / all posts.
|
Andy Perrett Crazy Courier
Joined: 07 Oct 2021 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
to v or not to v |
This post is not being displayed .
|
to v or not to v World Chat Champion
Joined: 24 Nov 2020 Karma :
|
Posted: 20:41 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
after going through the last few pages i did a quick google-
Scotland Mystery rise in heart attacks from blocked arteries
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mystery-rise-in-heart-attacks-from-blocked-arteries-m253drrnf
During the summer there was a 25 per cent rise in the number of people rushed to the Golden Jubilee National Hospital in Clydebank with partially blocked arteries cutting blood supply to the heart.
Sweden, Norway, and Finland suspend use of Moderna vaccine in young people “as a precaution”
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2477
Sweden, Norway, and Finland suspended the use of Moderna’s covid-19 vaccine on 7 October after reports of possible rare side effects.
The rate of vaccine-induced heart inflammation in children
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210913/The-rate-of-vaccine-induced-heart-inflammation-in-children.aspx
Therefore, the risk of cardiac adverse events following the second dose of the mRNA vaccine could be around 3.7 times more likely than hospitalization due to COVID-19 in healthy 12-15-year-old boys during periods when the pandemic is better under control 2.1 times in 16-17-year-olds. The group found that this trend remains even when SARS-CoV-2 transmission rates are high, with vaccination being riskier than hospitalization from COVID-19.
i dont think Cable Tie should be dismissed so quickly as some seem to do.
its quite shocking how much trust some people have in the state really ____________________ current bike Yamaha Thunderace.
its old and fat, but its a damned good ride. the bikes not bad either. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nobby the Bastard |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 160 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
|
|
|