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That alone provides a decent data point towards his tendency to manipulate data and stats to suit his worldview, |
Oh yeah, because only Sajid Trump does that doesn't he?
No other poster, like Nobby cherry picks data?
Give over. Every single news headline over Covid is twisted to suit an agenda. If you've failed to notice this, you're part of the problem.
| Sajid Davos wrote: | In the first 6 months of this year, 90% of the deaths due to Covid were people who were unvaccinated |
I'll "fact check" this for you, in terms someone who trusts the establishment can't deny.
On January 1st 2021, UK Covid deaths were 77,196. On July 1st, they were 128.314.
That makes 55,118 death occurring in the first 6 months. 90% of which is 46,000.
Between 1/1/21 and 1/3/21 there were 47,000 deaths due to Covid.
On 1/3/21 only 880,000 had received a second dose. As it needs 2 weeks to kick in, by this point, strictly speaking only 539,000 were fully vaccinated. By July this figure was over 33,000,000.
Can you see the issue? More than 90% of the deaths occurred before practically anyone was fully vaccinated.
It was a classic case of twisting stats and figures, which the hard of thinking public blindly accepted.
Trump was far more honest and open than the current crop, something which often got him in trouble.
Do you not get that the media attacked him as a right wing politician, because most of it is now controlled by a small group of far left multi billionaires who control the hard of thinking dumbing down general public, which largely just follows what the media tells them to?
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Ivermectin is now listed on the US NIH official site as an antiviral agent under evaluation or approved.
Nobby's mate, with 1.2M subscribers, but only a nurse teacher and not a real Doctor like Nobby. Some interesting comments too.
https://youtu.be/2F-Ml9gHnqA?t=3
Of course, it will never be approved when Pfi$er are developing a far more expensive re-licenced version. I suspect the US Gov want a larger brown envelope to delay of fail approval of IM, so Pfi$er can get theri contracts signed with governments around the world. |
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For those that are interested it's worth a look at the government statistics....
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/Overview
So while the BBC are pumping out Covid: Bring back rules amid rising cases, urge NHS chiefs like good little propagandists the actual numbers are slightly different. Infections are up but hospital admissions and deaths (which one might be foolish enough to consider important metrics) are dramatically down, relative to other waves. "Oh noes! But we don't want the NHS overwhelmed this winter!!!" I'm sure the NHS will be fine, if they can burn money on diversity officers.
The interesting thing from the stats is the who and the where. Regionally London is doing pretty well versus the north of England (which makes no sense to me!) Ethnically the Chinese have the least infection rate throughout the entire pandemic, odd that  Demographically it seems to be the kids getting it which are the group least likely to suffer major symptoms hence the low death and hospital admission rates.
Once this winter is over there should be more that enough empirical data to figure out how to get handle on this shit.
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| Easy-X wrote: | For those that are interested it's worth a look at the government statistics....
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/Overview
So while the BBC are pumping out Covid: Bring back rules amid rising cases, urge NHS chiefs like good little propagandists the actual numbers are slightly different. Infections are up but hospital admissions and deaths (which one might be foolish enough to consider important metrics) are dramatically down, relative to other waves. "Oh noes! But we don't want the NHS overwhelmed this winter!!!" I'm sure the NHS will be fine, if they can burn money on diversity officers.
The interesting thing from the stats is the who and the where. Regionally London is doing pretty well versus the north of England (which makes no sense to me!) Ethnically the Chinese have the least infection rate throughout the entire pandemic, odd that Demographically it seems to be the kids getting it which are the group least likely to suffer major symptoms hence the low death and hospital admission rates.
Once this winter is over there should be more that enough empirical data to figure out how to get handle on this shit. |
Comparing amongst waves is one way to twist the stats to suit an agenda. The second wave in any pandemic is usually the largest.
How about comparing to this time last year, for weather reasons etc?
Even with mass pricking campaigns including kids,..... cases, deaths and patients in hospital are all higher now than October 19th last year, where we were entering the first peak of the second wave. Just remember last year people were also relying on immune systems, not a now outdated vaccine for protection.
Testing was 4 times lower though, which may account for 36,000 cases over the 16,000 recorded last year.
Looking at the official figures at face value, does not show a lot of positives for these vaccines. The media agenda of it's reducing hospitalisations and deaths don't stack up to comparisons of this time last season. Delta is the usual get out clause used by the pro pharma establishment. What was last winter, the super nasty, Kent variant which got UK citizens banned everywhere the bed wetters heard of it?
This is the issue, anyone can cherry pick, as Javid did, to deliberately mislead the public, to push his excuse to roll out the Citizen app. |
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| Cable Tie wrote: | | Easy-X wrote: | For those that are interested it's worth a look at the government statistics....
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/Overview
So while the BBC are pumping out Covid: Bring back rules amid rising cases, urge NHS chiefs like good little propagandists the actual numbers are slightly different. Infections are up but hospital admissions and deaths (which one might be foolish enough to consider important metrics) are dramatically down, relative to other waves. "Oh noes! But we don't want the NHS overwhelmed this winter!!!" I'm sure the NHS will be fine, if they can burn money on diversity officers.
The interesting thing from the stats is the who and the where. Regionally London is doing pretty well versus the north of England (which makes no sense to me!) Ethnically the Chinese have the least infection rate throughout the entire pandemic, odd that Demographically it seems to be the kids getting it which are the group least likely to suffer major symptoms hence the low death and hospital admission rates.
Once this winter is over there should be more that enough empirical data to figure out how to get handle on this shit. |
Comparing amongst waves is one way to twist the stats to suit an agenda. The second wave in any pandemic is usually the largest.
How about comparing to this time last year, for weather reasons etc?
Even with mass pricking campaigns including kids,..... cases, deaths and patients in hospital are all higher now than October 19th last year, where we were entering the first peak of the second wave. Just remember last year people were also relying on immune systems, not a now outdated vaccine for protection.
Testing was 4 times lower though, which may account for 36,000 cases over the 16,000 recorded last year.
Looking at the official figures at face value, does not show a lot of positives for these vaccines. The media agenda of it's reducing hospitalisations and deaths don't stack up to comparisons of this time last season. Delta is the usual get out clause used by the pro pharma establishment. What was last winter, the super nasty, Kent variant which got UK citizens banned everywhere the bed wetters heard of it?
This is the issue, anyone can cherry pick, as Javid did, to deliberately mislead the public, to push his excuse to roll out the Citizen app. |
You seem to be forgetting the big differrent from last year to this.
No ristrictions are in place now.
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No ristrictions are in place now. |
Oh, you're back in the office? No more staring at the walls, you must be pleased! 
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Let's go, Brandon!
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Yes but we hadn't long had restrictions removed and some were still in place (masks, 2m distance where possible etc.)
We've had no restrictions for a fair few months now. |
in 2021, pubs etc were re-opened indoors on 19th July. Up until then you had to sit outside, with table service only which crippled numbers.
In 2020, pubs, restaurants and hairdressers were re-opened a lot earlier on July 4th.
Most shops, buses etc still ask, not demand that you wear a mask. Don't school kids still wear one? I thought my local Aldi still asked too.
Sporting and large events, yes, but they left it so late, most festivals cancelled this year as they couldn't risk committing large sums of money when the govt was changing it's mind left right and centre. |
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| ThatDippyTwat wrote: | If you think Trump is honest, looky here, I've got a bridge to sell. He's a shit version of a plutocrat. I say shit as if he took his original windfall and tracked the markets in a normal fund, he'd actually be considerably better off.
He'll say whatever has the best outcome for Trump, no matter if it's true or not. He's almost a textbook example of the polar opposite of Honest. He is concerned with being the centre of attention and worshipped, because worshippers will listen to anything he says, and do whatever he wants (and nearly managed it in Janurary).
And as for you conjecture on MSM - I don't watch TV. I haven't for quarter of a century. So go keep poking down your rabbit hole and say Hi to the Mad Hatter when you get wherever it is you're trying to go, because it sure as shit isn't the same reality most of us live in. |
You're entitled to your media programmed narrative on Trump.
Let's face it, you've never met or dealt with him, so your opinion is based entirely, whether you claim to be blind of media or not, by err. the mainly WEF member, left wing owned, Democrat funding, republican hating media.
Twitter, Facebook, Google, MS, all majorly in bed with the Global Socialists of the WEF.
Come on, banning Trump from Twitter but not the Taliban? Silencing him, discrediting everything he says, whilst ignoring blatant lies from the "correct" side.
I judge on results and results only with politicians and Biden's handlers are utter feckwits. They knew pulling out of Afghan so early and rapidly would cause the massive army to collapse and would cause mass Islamic migration in Europe, bringing crime, destabilisation, terrorism and financial hardship.
It was used as a weapon against us and most are too thick to see it.
China and the US are in a cold war and we're being played as pawns. |
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I don't know what to believe now as all large tech major search engines and news sources appear to have been cleansed to only support positive vaccine and large pharma stories.
It's my understanding that this isn't a traditional vaccine and is the first of it's kind, providing a set of instructions to cells, to supposedly combat the virus, rather than adding the immune cells directly.
mRNA is a genetic term, although of course, Google is full of large pharma funded "fact checking" sites which will deny any link.
Unfortunately, as is plainly obvious now. it was designed for the first strain and is of a lot less use nowadays.
Hence why Pfi$er put a lot of effort into smearing IM, so they could release their own rehashed and freshly licen$ed wonderpill to replace the failing quarterly prick programme. |
mRNA vaccines are actually nothing new, they have been studied and developed since the late 1980's and an mRNA vaccine for influenza has been extensively tested for about 10 years now. Messenger RNA (mRNA) is present in all living cells, without it we could not live, mRNA is essential for the synthesis of proteins. MRNA vaccines work by introducing mRNA from the Covid-19 virus into our bodies. Our cells absorb the mRNA and the Ribosomes in our cells use the information in the virus mRNA to produce proteins unique to the virus. When the virus protein is synthesised our body recognises it as a pathogen and initiates an immune response. This immune response trains our immune system (mainly B-cell lymphocytes, which produce virus antibodies) to recognise the virus so it can attack it more quickly and effectively.
Unlike live vaccines, mRNA vaccines do not use the whole virus to create an immune response, and they don't give you the disease. Because of this they are safer for people who have compromised immune systems who may not be able to have a live vaccine without great risk.
MRNA vaccines are not in any way a form of Gene Therapy. Gene therapy involves changing or repairing a hosts DNA to cure various diseases and genetic abnormalities. MRNA vaccines cannot alter your DNA in any way, it is simply impossible. Firstly, the virus mRNA cannot enter your cell nucleus which is where your DNA is stored. Secondly, mRNA is totally different to DNA it cannot alter DNA in any shape or form. Thirdly mRNA is not a durable molecule it is broken down in your cells in a matter of hours.
MRNA vaccines are a big improvement over traditional vaccines for many types of virus. They are safer and at least as equally effective. No vaccine is totally without risk but VAE (vaccine adverse event) rates from mRNA vaccines are no higher, and often lower than with live vaccines and the side effects are usually similar. Typical VAE's are caused by the body's immunity "overreacting" and very occasionally producing an immune response that is harmful to the body occasionally causing things like blood clots and inflammation. Current adverse effect rates for the Covid vaccine are 3-6 per 1000 injections for mild to moderate reactions and less than 1 per 1000 injections for severe reactions. No vaccine is 100% reliable at preventing transmission or infection. Most vaccines provide around 80% protection, with some, such as MMR, providing over 90% protection. The Covid-19 vaccines have shown to provide around 80%-85% immunity.
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