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Obviously they'll all not want to participate in the future medical benefits that mRNA technology may confer including treatment for some cancers, cystic fibrosis, tuberculosis, heart disease, and many other conditions.
I mean, it would be a tad hypocritical of them wouldn't it?   |
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| Cable Tie wrote: | To be fair, not saying people on here are, just for disagreeing, but an alarming number of the general public are thick sheep now, who expect the establishment to do all the thinking for them. |
Now?! When have the great unwashed ever been that bright? The pinnacle of human civilisation, The British Empire, didn't come about despite the disenfranchisement of the plebs but because of it; one must be invested in a thing before one has the right to exercise control of a thing.
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Except I have a level of education where I understand the principles behind all of the vaccines currently in use in the UK, and I understand the overarching principle of vaccination as a preventative treatment. That overarching principle requires most people to take the vaccine else it doesn't work properly. What I see from that is a bunch of selfish people who would rather nurse their own fears of an absolutely microscopic miniscule infinitesimal chance of experiencing some sort of side effect than protect everyone else by doing the right thing.
Honestly, some of the shit people come out with as possible side effects just cannot be true due to the nature of the vaccines themselves. They don't hang around in the body so how can they cause these effects further down the line? They are all based on existing vaccines which are widely accepted as safe, and yet some people can't seem to accept that we busted a gut to make a safe effective vaccine in a year and a half. Apparently that's not long enough...? It was a whole year and a half of testing We had a candidate vaccine completed about a month after the sequencing of the Covid 19 virus was completed. A candidate vaccine based on vaccines being already worked on for ten years. Go figure. |
You understand what you've been told and you trust the sources to be accurate and complete, when secretly, you know full well that should there be an issue with the vaccine, such as the AZ one which most received and is now mysteriously abandoned even though it was cheaper, neither the establishment, government, media or large pharma are going to allow that to be known and will deny the link to the massive rise in blood clots and heart attacks, plus the massive rise in Covid infection amongst the double pricked, which is getting worse by the week.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
Page 13. Why are some age groups now more than twice as likely to be carrying Covid if double pricked? False sense of security of an obsolete vaccine, offering bugger all protection after 2 months?
You're a lot more trusting of the proven to be lying constantly, media and puppet government than me. Good for you. 
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| Islander wrote: | Obviously they'll all not want to participate in the future medical benefits that mRNA technology may confer including treatment for some cancers, cystic fibrosis, tuberculosis, heart disease, and many other conditions.
I mean, it would be a tad hypocritical of them wouldn't it? |
I would, if and when they get properly tested, not administered under emergency measures, using untrained staff who don't administer it properly, where the pharma have been given immunity from prosecution if it turns all recipients into bitter twisted, walking heart attack cases.
Oh, the not administering properly comment is because they're not being told to aspirate the jab as only trained nurses could administer it if they followed correct procedure.
Basically, if injecting into muscle, which they do, they should inject a bit then draw back to check there's no blood and they've not hit a blood vessel. Injecting straight into the blood vessels without checking, with this type of vaccine is a real no no and dangerous. They're not performing this safety check as it would rule out the bulk of people doing the pricking.
Another shortcut to chase figures to get everyone pricked so UK GOV PLC can toll out the Citizen app to little objection as the vast majority over 12 will be OK to use it unhindered. |
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You understand what you've been told and you trust the sources to be accurate and complete, when secretly, you know full well that should there be an issue with the vaccine, such as the AZ one which most received and is now mysteriously abandoned even though it was cheaper, neither the establishment, government, media or large pharma are going to allow that to be known and will deny the link to the massive rise in blood clots and heart attacks, plus the massive rise in Covid infection amongst the double pricked, which is getting worse by the week.
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So, on one hand you say it's dangerous because of the blood clot issue and on the other (in the same fucking sentence) complain that it's not being used?
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You understand what you've been told and you trust the sources to be accurate and complete, when secretly, you know full well that should there be an issue with the vaccine, such as the AZ one which most received and is now mysteriously abandoned even though it was cheaper, neither the establishment, government, media or large pharma are going to allow that to be known and will deny the link to the massive rise in blood clots and heart attacks, plus the massive rise in Covid infection amongst the double pricked, which is getting worse by the week.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
Page 13. Why are some age groups now more than twice as likely to be carrying Covid if double pricked? False sense of security of an obsolete vaccine, offering bugger all protection after 2 months?
You're a lot more trusting of the proven to be lying constantly, media and puppet government than me. Good for you. |
You know that science is absolutely 100% geared towards giving some level of reward to scientists who can disprove accepted theory right? So you know if a scientist managed to show that there was a link between the vaccine and some severe side effect that they would be published, printed and their career would receive a huge boost? It seems like you don't?
The reason the AZ vaccine is not used as much is very simple; A microscopic risk of blood clots developing has been shown, but some of that data was tainted by poorly trained nurses in Denmark who were inducing blood clots by not using the correct technique to administer the vaccine. This then tainted the reputation of that vaccine. I'm also fairly sure the government purchased a limited number of doses, and as I recall the AZ vaccine is a LOT harder to store and transport than the Pfizer one.
Honestly have you not noticed that burying things is impossible? That people do not have the incentive to attempt an enormous cover up because it's basically impossible? Therefore why would a nefarious cabal of Big Pharma and the Global 'mainstream meeja' band together to do... what? To achieve something that they've already achieved, that being making a f*ckton of money by selling medicines?
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | | Cable Tie wrote: |
You understand what you've been told and you trust the sources to be accurate and complete, when secretly, you know full well that should there be an issue with the vaccine, such as the AZ one which most received and is now mysteriously abandoned even though it was cheaper, neither the establishment, government, media or large pharma are going to allow that to be known and will deny the link to the massive rise in blood clots and heart attacks, plus the massive rise in Covid infection amongst the double pricked, which is getting worse by the week.
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So, on one hand you say it's dangerous because of the blood clot issue and on the other (in the same fucking sentence) complain that it's not being used? |
Err, no I didn't. Even your average root vegetable wouldn't take my comment that way.
Let me point it out in terms even you might understand.
I'm asking you double pricked ands counting fans, why all of a sudden, Sunak PLC is spending all our cash with the recently 25% price hiked, Yank owned Pfi$er instead of the UK developed, cost price Blood Clot Shot. More dangerous, or sh1t against Delta, or both?
It's not that hard to comprehend surely? |
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I still can't be arsed with the vaccine yet. And I just can't get worked up about it anymore like some do. Have it. Don't have it. Hold me down and force it into me. Or just shoot me. It's all one to me 
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You know that science is absolutely 100% geared towards giving some level of reward to scientists who can disprove accepted theory right? So you know if a scientist managed to show that there was a link between the vaccine and some severe side effect that they would be published, printed and their career would receive a huge boost? It seems like you don't? |
How naïve can you get? Anyone who dared even mention IVER m e c t i n, was ostracised. Anything which praised IM, or remotely criticises the large pharma money spinner jabs or shows them in a bad light is removed from view by the large tech. Scientists are too afraid to give opinion, because many of those who did on this subject lost their entire careers or get hatchet jobbed as raving nutters by the bought media.
There are tens of Billions of $$ of profit at stake here, for massive multinationals and their investors. Nobody from government to large pharma is going to admit to killing or damaging people, even with the legal disclaimers granted, as it would be commercial suicide for them..
| MarJay wrote: | The reason the AZ vaccine is not used as much is very simple; A microscopic risk of blood clots developing has been shown, |
"Microscopic". Captain Coincidence strikes again with it's massive rise in heart attacks and blood clots.
| MarJay wrote: | Honestly have you not noticed that burying things is impossible? That people do not have the incentive to attempt an enormous cover up because it's basically impossible? Therefore why would a nefarious cabal of Big Pharma and the Global 'mainstream meeja' band together to do... what? To achieve something that they've already achieved, that being making a f*ckton of money by selling medicines? |
Like when Facebook, AMS and other large techs were out for hours the other week, (due to a software update. Feck off, like it wouldn't be bench tested first) and when it all came back on, sh1t loads of data had fecked off. When did this happen ,Captain Coincidence? Oh yeah, that's right, the day the Pandora Papers report was released, revealing hidden wealth, tax avoidance and, in some cases, money laundering by some of the world's rich and powerful. Cue, panic clean up of the media rich and powerful.
Why do people still trust the media and puppet governments when they've been proved to be lying and twisting fact, time and time again? Is it just easier to comply, like in Nazi Germany? |
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You know that science is absolutely 100% geared towards giving some level of reward to scientists who can disprove accepted theory right? So you know if a scientist managed to show that there was a link between the vaccine and some severe side effect that they would be published, printed and their career would receive a huge boost? It seems like you don't? |
How naïve can you get? Anyone who dared even mention IVER m e c t i n, was ostracised. Anything which praised IM, or remotely criticises the large pharma money spinner jabs or shows them in a bad light is removed from view by the large tech. Scientists are too afraid to give opinion, because many of those who did on this subject lost their entire careers or get hatchet jobbed as raving nutters by the bought media.
There are tens of Billions of $$ of profit at stake here, for massive multinationals and their investors. Nobody from government to large pharma is going to admit to killing or damaging people, even with the legal disclaimers granted, as it would be commercial suicide for them..
| MarJay wrote: | The reason the AZ vaccine is not used as much is very simple; A microscopic risk of blood clots developing has been shown, |
"Microscopic". Captain Coincidence strikes again with it's massive rise in heart attacks and blood clots.
| MarJay wrote: | Honestly have you not noticed that burying things is impossible? That people do not have the incentive to attempt an enormous cover up because it's basically impossible? Therefore why would a nefarious cabal of Big Pharma and the Global 'mainstream meeja' band together to do... what? To achieve something that they've already achieved, that being making a f*ckton of money by selling medicines? |
Like when Facebook, AMS and other large techs were out for hours the other week, (due to a software update. Feck off, like it wouldn't be bench tested first) and when it all came back on, sh1t loads of data had fecked off. When did this happen ,Captain Coincidence? Oh yeah, that's right, the day the Pandora Papers report was released, revealing hidden wealth, tax avoidance and, in some cases, money laundering by some of the world's rich and powerful. Cue, panic clean up of the media rich and powerful.
Why do people still trust the media and puppet governments when they've been proved to be lying and twisting fact, time and time again? Is it just easier to comply, like in Nazi Germany? |
where does this shit come from? Fuck, keep drinking the kool aid my friend.
You associate things that have no evidence for any kind of link. You see patterns that aren't there.
There is also a huge difference between mentioning ivermectin, and asserting that it works against Covid without scientific evidence. Do you know who would be happiest to find a cheap, effective, safe treatment for Covid? Fucking everyone! Science does NOT work by making an assertion and sticking with that assertion as fact. Science works by taking a hypothesis and testing it properly in a way that cannot be falsified, affected or biassed and that needs to be done in controlled conditions with the right sort of experiment or trial. Giving it to a load of people and hoping it works is NOT science, and is actually a) very dangerous and b) a desperation move by countries who don't have enough vaccines to go around.
As I've said before you want this comforting blanket of an idea that you have knowledge that the rest don't, but it's just not the case and the sooner you let go of it, the better. It's not healthy for you to be like this, and the stark reality is that you're wrong.
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Don't have much else to do during the day then? |
Had a bit of work (remember that?), will invoice it on Monday, then been out changing the oil and filter on the Cayenne Turbo WLS (E81 Powerkit) as I'll probably be too hung over tomorrow.
The b*stard garage the previous owner used are absolute cowboys. I've uncovered a comedy of sh1te work, including todays little surprise, a completely rounded M8 Allen hole, lower sump plug. Luckily, I'd already bought a magnetic one to replace it.
Previous comedies included just putting new stickers on the old coil packs and charging the dimwit owner for coils and plugs, which when I looked, could well have been original and 15 years old as all had a crack running down the length. Certainly not new when I had to cut the plugs from the rubber boot with a long narrow flat blade screwdriver, as they were varnished together.
How about you, your 4rse must be hurting, sitting on that fence all day, poking other posters to get a reaction.
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