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We can argue over interpretation of figures till we're blue in the face but the fact still remains that the government (of the UK at least) has no clue how to handle any of this... after over two fricking years
"Positive test results are rising!" okay, but no one's explained in clear terms why that's actually a problem. "More ppl will die!" the figures don't reflect that. "The NHS will be overwhelmed!" the figures don't reflect that.
Let's just assume it is a bad thing regardless of the consequences, what's the solution? "Mask mandates!" has that worked in the past? The figures don't seem to suggest that. As I've always said: what's the point in mandating ornamental masks? "Vaccine passports!" the vaccine doesn't confer immunity to Covid nor does it prevent retransmission. "More testing!" well that just shows you have a problem, it's not a solution.
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Easy-X wrote: | We can argue over interpretation of figures till we're blue in the face but the fact still remains that the government (of the UK at least) has no clue how to handle any of this... after over two fricking years
"Positive test results are rising!" okay, but no one's explained in clear terms why that's actually a problem. "More ppl will die!" the figures don't reflect that. "The NHS will be overwhelmed!" the figures don't reflect that.
Let's just assume it is a bad thing regardless of the consequences, what's the solution? "Mask mandates!" has that worked in the past? The figures don't seem to suggest that. As I've always said: what's the point in mandating ornamental masks? "Vaccine passports!" the vaccine doesn't confer immunity to Covid nor does it prevent retransmission. "More testing!" well that just shows you have a problem, it's not a solution.
And of course all of this is a pointless exercise when you have a porous international border |
But everyone, government included are ignoring the elephant in the room, because it doesn't fit the pro mass vaccine agenda.
Why is there now a rapidly growing trend of much higher infection rate amongst the vaccinated of the majority of the population, including now all age groups, 40-80?
This means vaxx passes and forced vaccination for certain jobs, are excluding people far less likely to have Covid and are encouraging those far more likely to catch or have it.
This makes zero sense and should be setting alarm bells ringing.
At what level will the government stop trying to ignore this growing issue?
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The government should mandate nothing at this stage. The vaccine is available. Have it if you want it. Most have. Wear a mask if you want to. If you don't, take your chances, it's your choice. It isn't about protecting others anymore.
The government should spend its time working out how to fix the very broken NHS (and not wasting taxpayer's money on diversity officers), and all the other problems we currently have. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | The government should mandate nothing at this stage. The vaccine is available. Have it if you want it. Most have. Wear a mask if you want to. If you don't, take your chances, it's your choice. It isn't about protecting others anymore.
The government should spend its time working out how to fix the very broken NHS (and not wasting taxpayer's money on diversity officers), and all the other problems we currently have. |
And banishing staff who stand less than half the risk of being contagious is clearly a stupid idea. So what is Sadistic Javid's motive, other than forcing, coercing, shaming and bribing every single person to take a vaccine which makes you over twice as likely to catch the thing it's meant to protect you from?
There's growing evidence here that the mass vaccination programme has an ulterior motive, as it's not stopping the spread of Covid as they government are pretending it's all about.
Personally, I think its so when they finally do bring in the Vaxx Pass app, which will have features added until it becomes similar to the CCP Citizen Scoring app, it will meet little or no opposition as the vast majority will have already met the pre-requisites.
Let's face it, you can't introduce this when 20% of the population don't meet or wish to join the compulsory scheme. |
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | On one hand you are arguing that the <18 are less vaccinated so have higher rates, but then complain that vaccination causes higher rates.
Please explain how you ended up with these two contradictory views on the same set of data. |
There is clearly a link between the level of vaccination in a group and the rate at which those people are catching Covid and it's rising rapidly.
As vaccination rate goes up in the 40-80 groups especially, the level of infection amongst those vaccinated in that group, also increases.
The anomalies of course are under 18's who barely anyone is yet fully vaccinated and the over 80's who still need to take special precautions as, vaccinated or not, if they get it, their chances of survival are poor.
It appears the vaccine is making people catch Covid and the gap between vaccinated and unvaccinated getting infected, in all age groups is expanding, to 30-80+ now, where it was 40-49 only last week.
It's an alarming trend and something I'm astounded the government are pressing on ahead pricking people, without first looking into WTF is going on with vaccinated people becoming super spreaders at a rate of well over double in most age groups. |
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And once again we come back to rates.
So, If you have 1000 vaccinated, 4 of them are be infected.
If you have 100,000 vaccinated , 4,000 are infected.
If you have 10,000,000 vaccinated, 400,000 are infected.
(Rate chosen at random)
All three of those are the same rate per head vaccinated. The number vaccinated does not change the rate.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 182 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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