2030 The death of personal vehicular transport?

[Polarbear]

[MCN]

So when we put our hands up and stop using hydrocarbons as our energy source, tax will simply shift over to renewables.

Those 'two house' subsidies and trimmings for our MPs aren't going to pay for themselves.

The shower of kunts we elect to 'Look after things' will make sure that they're not out of pocket due to any of their decisions.
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[GSTEEL32]

I think Robbie and MarJay make an interesting point regarding Pool vehicles.

In effect, we already have the design for pool vehicles, in the Hackney cab. Thats been designed to allow for kids, wheelchairs and trans people etc.

However, motor manufacturers are never going to go for it as they won't have enough differentiation between their vehicles and the "standard" design, to keep going with their brand.

You can't have the current level of 12 or so vehicles "platforms" and still hope to achieve a cost effective pool methodology.

I think this will come to nothing anyway, especially given China and India's lack of buy in it at Glasgow yesterday. They'll place economic growth before polar bears and blue whales aaaaaaalllllll day long.

[Robby]

I would be a lot more concerned about the US than India or China.

China can change direction incredibly rapidly when it chooses to, and they do strategic planning in all things. Unfortunately for the world it looks they're planning more for 2 degrees and extensive mitigation than aiming for 1.5 degrees.

India, as we saw last year, has an increasingly powerful and joined-up lobby in the form of farmers. India is also going to be one of the earliest countries to get hit hard by climate change. A couple of years of failed harvests and I wouldn't be surprised to see a new government sign any agreement (after watching the previous being publicly executed).

US though. What a fucking mess.

[MCN]

The shift of manufacturing to turd world kuntries allows the west to sit proud that they are not the polluters.
The turd world were late to the party and argue they need hydrocarbons to catch up their economies.

Just talk from all sides. Building up economies just means a few Arseholes become disgustingly rich.
And those making it happen starve.

Stop using hydrocarbons and stuff that's made by exploiting easy energy.
Then stand back and watch the world disintegrate.
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[MarJay]

[Polarbear]

[MarJay]

[xX-Alex-Xx]

[Robby]

[Ribenapigeon]

Maybe when 2030 arrives and the government of the day sees what a political pig phasing out internal combustion engines will be then the goal posts will be substantially moved/removed. After all "get the bus oik" is not a good slogan for getting votes.

[droog]

Couple of news items caught my eye last week which support the OP's contention.

Tory junior transport minister Trudy Harrison announced in Parliament last week that owning a car is outdated '20th-century thinking' and that there should be greater use of mass transportation systems.

A rail line between Exeter and Okehampton in Devon that was closed back in 1972 was reopened.- Apparently this is part of a wider plan to ressurrect local rail routes that were targeted for decommissioning by Beeching back in the early 60's (routes that were abandoned precisely because post-war mass car ownership and road haulage was reducing the demand for local rail travel).
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Bhud]

Isn't that the one with the crazy, who is supposedly a keen motorcyclist?

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/motorcyclists-now-have-voice-houses-parliament

Hmm, so I take it that this means that having tried to use the imagery of bikes to direct public perceptions in her favour as a bold and dynamic individual (a very 20th century way of looking at things) she is suddenly uninterested in bikes as well. Come to think of it, is there any evidence that she ever rode at all? Online, it appears she attended a couple of MAG events. I suppose she's been there and done that, now. Onward and upward to better things. It's obvious what those are.

I'm not having a dig at her - every creature acts according to its nature. A scorpion stings indiscrimately.

I will use this opportunity to have a dig at MAG though. How can you expect people to support you if you overlook what your eyes tell you, or if your strategic planning suppresses your gut feeling and experience?

https://www.mag-uk.org/does-new-motorcycling-minister-signal-a-bright-future-for-riders/

[droog]

[droog]

[Bhud]

[Ribenapigeon]

If you cover up the smile the eyes don't match it, definitely the psychopath look.

[droog]

[quote="Bhud"]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Jeez, the stuff some of you read into ordinary things. That’s a forced smile for the camera, they never look natural.

Back on topic, I watched ‘The Modern Age of the Coach’ yesterday, it was surprisingly good.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xf6xk

I reckon I could happily do without a car if there was a comprehensive bus service (in the sticks) but to get that there would either have to be large scale coercion (pricing or otherwise inconveniencing people out of car ownership) or massive pre-investment in the vague hope of making it the better alternative. So, in response to the OP, yes it’s inevitable that personal transport will decline, and although that makes sense on many levels we might consider ourselves to be in a golden age now. I’ll take a different view of that last point tomorrow morning when my car is crawling at 5mph on the way into Stevenage though.

[Ribenapigeon]

[Polarbear]

[doggone]

They must read this forum to get ideas
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1535798/private-car-ownership-road-driving-changes-updates

[Bhud]

[Polarbear]