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Posted: 22:27 - 05 Dec 2021 Post subject: Is it time to ban political parties? |
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A certain section of people, mostly my age group, blindly vote for the red party and bash the blue party without actually thinking about the policies and solutions on offer. If we ban parties voters will no longer have the "red box" ticking virtue signalling option and might actually have to think for themselves.
This also has the side effect of solving the problem of how to fund political parties. Just don't |
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How can you ban them? Peope will still migrate towards people of their own kind. You see that in migrants all congregating together in towns. You see it with people of like minds socialising together. The same would happen with individual politicians bnding with other politicians with the same ideas. A party in all but name.
Then, how would you have a working goverment? Who chooses the PM? Who chooses the political direction? Even in countries with PR and coallitions there are parties.
I would say a politician has have to had a proper job for at least 5? years. Not working for daddies firm or pulling pints in a pub while at Uni but a full time job, learning what it feels like to have nigh on half your wage packet taken by the government.
Then when you become an MP that's all you can do. Take a penny from any other source and you are done for taking bribes, and locked up or stuck on a pike staff on London bridge in Dianes case.
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Yes, worth mentioning there are many, many alternatives to first-past-the-post. The phase "proportional representation" has erroneously been weaponised
But as to the Libtards being keen? Of course, they did so well out of the last coalition government TBF that was a fuck-up of their own creation.
Rolling back the constitutional changes of the Blair government would probably be of more tangible use than changing the voting system but after that shifting to a more bottom-up, local form of government would be on my wish-list. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I really don't think it is possible to ban political parties and still retain a functioning government. What I would actually like to see is more credible political parties to challenge the big two, particularly more politically centrist parties. I used to usually vote for the Liberal Democrats as their political views and values most closely matched my own. However, at the last general election I voted for an independent MP. I felt unable to vote Lib Dem last time due to their blatant hypocrisy over the Brexit vote. Although I did vote to remain, I respect that the majority of those who voted, voted to leave. That happens in a democratic process. But for the Lib Dems to decide that they were going to completely ignore the wishes of the voting public in the first real democratic process for a generation was not something I could accept, especially from a Political party that calls itself The Liberal Democrats.
UK politics have become very polarised now. You have Labour on the far left who just want to cancel anyone who doesn't agree with them, but who can't actually agree themselves what they stand for, and you have the Conservatives who couldn't give a shit about anyone who isn't white, British, middle class and from London. The Lib Dems are a bunch of hypocrites and the Greens are just the lunatic fringe. There isn't a credible political party for those voters who's political views are mainly centrist or just left of right of centre. right now, I have no idea who to vote for in the next election. ____________________ Current bike: ST1100 "Big Red" |
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Polarbear wrote: | How can you ban them? Peope will still migrate towards people of their own kind. You see that in migrants all congregating together in towns. You see it with people of like minds socialising together. The same would happen with individual politicians bnding with other politicians with the same ideas. A party in all but name. |
They can still meet up if they like, they just can't campaign as being part of a party or have a party on a ballot paper. The objective is to force voters to think not ban them from associating.
Polarbear wrote: | Then, how would you have a working goverment? Who chooses the PM? Who chooses the political direction? Even in countries with PR and coallitions there are parties. |
Same as now. MPs vote for a PM but would also vote for the ministers. Direction is chosen by MPs, not just the PM, I'd say that is an improvement. Abstraction away from the voter is why you and I get so little say.
Polarbear wrote: | I would say a politician has have to had a proper job for at least 5? years. Not working for daddies firm or pulling pints in a pub while at Uni but a full time job, learning what it feels like to have nigh on half your wage packet taken by the government.
Then when you become an MP that's all you can do. Take a penny from any other source and you are done for taking bribes, and locked up or stuck on a pike staff on London bridge in Dianes case.
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Many of them work as SPADs and the like before becoming an MP. We need fewer professional politicians. What you highlight is a wider problem of a managerial class in general, too many Chiefs, too few Indians.
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Some people will want to serve the nation. Some of those will go into the various forces, some will go into the public sector, some will want to change things through politics.
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That may be true for Tories (I've not met any Tory SPADs) but the Labour and Lib Dem* party juniors were interested primarily in making a career out of gobbing off about the latest woke topic. Don't get me wrong, they are nice enough people, just not really in politics for the reasons you are hoping for.
* Lib Dems don't have SPADs. |
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Incoming conspiracy theory!
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Considering there are actually only about 600 of them, politicians have more than their fair share of total cvnts and arseholes.
Ex-Tory minister Andrew Griffiths found to have raped wife
Raped his wife. Coersive and controlling. Lewd comments sent to constituants. Having a long time affair. Addicted to porn.
But hey, he was cleared by the Parliamentary standards watchdog so that's all OK.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 130 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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