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Mark65 World Chat Champion
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Posted: 13:01 - 06 Dec 2021 Post subject: Scorpion End Can |
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Hi All,
I have bought a Scorpion end can but it doest seem to fit, and yes its the correct one quad checked, its out by about 4-6mm (images attached) the OEM goes on and off easily.
Im waiting on there response from Scorpion as its a no modification fit, has anyone else had problems with them?.
Thanks
Mark ____________________ 07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650 |
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Posted: 13:53 - 06 Dec 2021 Post subject: Re: Scorpion End Can |
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Mark65 wrote: | Hi All,
I have bought a Scorpion end can but it doest seem to fit, and yes its the correct one quad checked, its out by about 4-6mm (images attached) the OEM goes on and off easily.
Im waiting on there response from Scorpion as its a no modification fit, has anyone else had problems with them?.
Thanks
Mark |
I've worked in and around the motortrade for forty years . The curse of the job is ' the wrong parts' . Whether it's the wrong part in the right box, the right part but wrongly made, the catalogue being wrong for your vehicle, or any of the thousand other permutations of ' it's a fuck up', the part you have been given is plainly not a straight fit for your vehicle.
Can you wiggle a screwdriver in the two holes and get it to line up a bit better with a bit of judicious bending? Maybe loosen the front pipe a bit to if that helps?
Or is this is where you find out how good the company who sold you the silencer is, do they try and get you sorted, or somehow try and blame you , for their crap parts. ____________________ All the above is my personal opinion, you can see my lips move, but I'm talking out of my arse.
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Posted: 14:45 - 06 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Hi,
No wiggle room, the metal band on the pipe is tack welded to the exhaust so no more movement forward, not sure if that is a recent mod that suzuki have done and the company dont know about it?, maybe it would fit without it but im not grinding metal of a new bike. I would think they would send a slightly shorter link pipe maybe or I will return it.
Still no reply from them yet.
Mark ____________________ 07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650 |
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Posted: 18:31 - 06 Dec 2021 Post subject: Re: Scorpion End Can |
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steve the grease wrote: |
I've worked in and around the motortrade for forty years . The curse of the job is ' the wrong parts' . Whether it's the wrong part in the right box, the right part but wrongly made, the catalogue being wrong for your vehicle, or any of the thousand other permutations of ' it's a fuck up', the part you have been given is plainly not a straight fit for your vehicle.
Can you wiggle a screwdriver in the two holes and get it to line up a bit better with a bit of judicious bending? Maybe loosen the front pipe a bit to if that helps?
Or is this is where you find out how good the company who sold you the silencer is, do they try and get you sorted, or somehow try and blame you , for their crap parts. |
I know most of the characters involved in Scorpion & have an enormous amount of respect for all of them.
I hear what you sayin' & I too have been there & done that.
Of all the spin off's of "Micron", or Codnor Light Fabrications, Scorpion are probably the bestest of the bunch, at least they are the longest lived.
Anyone who knows, knows that sometimes it all goes horribly wrong. I personally judge the Co's I deal with by how they deal with the situation when it does go Pete Tong.
We call it "exception handling".
It's a fundamental principle of business that no matter how well a Co' is run, sometimes things get twisted & skewed in the customer relationship, & the customers experience may not always live up to the standards that the business sets itself. On these occasions a Co' can be judged by how many times it goes Pete Tong, but it's also important to judge them by exactly how hard they try to put it right.
Scorpion Exhausts is a good Co', it is well run, well funded & generally staffed by motivated & competent people who have a general interest in keeping all of their customers happy.
If the OP doesn't get an agreeable outcome from this, then I will happily volunteer to step in & mediate . . . . ! ____________________ I clean my guns with the tears of the snivelling, left wing scum. |
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Posted: 19:49 - 06 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Well the reply from Louise annoyed me already:
Thanks for your email, unfortunately my colleague who deals with technical enquiries is not in the office until tomorrow, he will get back to you on his return
I said:
Hello Louise,
Perhaps your reply should be "we are sorry your having problems with your purchase, when our technical advisor comes in tomm we will do our best to rectify any problems you are experiencing".
I also pointed out any parts that need returning wont be payed for by me.
The reputation of the company is why i bought from them, I have MTC and Pipe Werx all nearby but i liked their design, I have a feeling maybe that collar on the pipe was not on earlier models but cant confirm that and Im happy to give the benefit of the doubt if the link pipe is not correct, possibly a slightly shorter link pipe would allow the forward movement needed?.
See what happens tommorow.
Mark ____________________ 07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650 |
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Posted: 15:41 - 07 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Hi, yes the ring is spot welded on the join and tack welded on the backside edge, it does seem odd why its there?.
I have tried calling Scorpion but they only give a recording hiding behind the Covid excuse, I have told them I would like a reply today as I was told or I wish to return the faulty goods and or using the distance selling regs.
Ive asked for a returns number.
As i have been writing this I have had a email from Martin that they are sending a new link pipe, i did ask if its a shorter one or was the wrong one sent originally. Hopefully that will sort the problem, other than that it feels very well built, but if not back it goes.
I will let you know.
Mark ____________________ 07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650 |
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Hi,
So I got the replacement this morning but no dice, the can was touching the swingarm, I had another go with the first one and manged to get it on but it only has 10mm clearance from the swingarm (I have no idea if that's ok).
The bolt at the top that goes through the rear hanger is not perfectly straight but there is a rubber mount in there.
I know its a mass produced item so there will be variances in the construction, it sounds great.
Images attached, oem, short and the original and one from side.
I asked if they are happy with the fitting for warranty purposes in case it has stress on the can top mounting points, hopefully all will be good.
Mark
Scorpion have said there confident it will be fine and 10mm is ok.
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Posted: 15:44 - 08 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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10mm clearance (sideways) from the swingarm should be fine, there shouldn't be any side to side movement in your swingarm anyway. I had a similar issue with the exhaust (just) touching the swingarm on my street triple, and fixed it with a washer added to the bolt connecting the silencer to the hanger to push it out very slightly. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 137 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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