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A100man
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 03 Dec 2021    Post subject: Flueless gas fire - wall hung Reply with quote

anyone got one?

are they any good?

Looking to (eventually) replace the 1970s gas fire front of my now decommissioned Baxi Bermuda.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 03 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS @ HelKat - that's Wall Hung before you get all in a dither Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 03 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

Oh

Wall....
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 07 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean a catalytic one?

Yep, got one.

Chucks out lots of heat, works well but you do need ventilation in the room as you do get water vapour as a by-product
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 07 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah had a couple, as above really

they look nice and chuck out a load of heat, as pan rider mentioned you need a vent

the last one I had needed a 100cm vent, only problem I found was that in winter the vent made the room cold, you also could hear people walking past chatting and it made a noise in strong winds. I believe you can get vents with baffles in that might reduce the noise some what
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 07 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.. Yes I think they are all catalytic. I spotted a couple of SMEG branded ones on ebay but I think they are Focal Point rebrands.

I have a (2 brick!) vent already for the open flue Baxi Bermuda that is now decommissioned and yes the wind does howl through so it is currently taped up.
I read that some have oxy sensors that cut it out if there's not enough air supply which I doubt will be an issue on my case since there's no
door on the knock through kitchen/diner to the hall/stairs etc.. (30s design semi).

Condensation is a concern since there no flue for the products of combustion - you might think there'd be one to buy with a built-in condenser..
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 07 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

duhawkz wrote:


the last one I had needed a 100cm vent, only problem I found was that in winter the vent made the room cold, you also could hear people walking past chatting and it made a noise in strong winds. I believe you can get vents with baffles in that might reduce the noise some what


100cm2 right ? so about one brick..

For some reason there's vents everywhere n this house. Another 2 bricker in the bathroom and one in the small bedroom the latter is especially baffling.
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 08 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah some thing like this

https://www.fireplacestoreonline.com/air-vent-100cm-free-area/

it will tell you in the instructions for the fire what you need
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 10 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Sir considered a bio ethanol burner???

They don't have to look out of place unless they in a $15million Manhattan bedsit, nor do they have to look like Al Pacino's cauldron in The Devils Advocate.

No flue required, totally smokeless & you don't notice any room aroma unless you walk into one from outside.

Butler Towers has a snug / reading area by a BIG window where we opened up the old fireplace but left the flue blocked, placed a purpose 1l built tank inside a cast iron grate & smothered that with the type of logs you find in gaslog fires.

Kicks out about 1kw of heat on the few occasions I light it & it's only purpose is to provide the ambience of a natural flame, which it does quite well.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 11 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:
Has Sir considered a bio ethanol burner???



and how much does one of these cost to run?
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 11 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
JackButler wrote:
Has Sir considered a bio ethanol burner???



and how much does one of these cost to run?


We only use it as a feature, not for heating.

I bought this winters fuel,12l for £30 (£2.50per litre). 1/2 litre in the tank lasts approx 2-2.5hrs, (tanks with ceramic wool/sponges may be better). Our tank fits inside a traditional cast grate & gives a 5" wide flickering flame, I'd imagine that the more 'designer' / wider tanks burn more in proportion. I reckon this setup kicks out 1kw of heat, not sure if that scales up to 2kw with 10" wide flame?

Think of the benefits, nothing is better than a real flickering flame, no ashes, no maintenance. The only downsides I can think of is it won't toast bread/marshmallows & you can't chuck any rubbish on (like Jack did the first time he met his mates Gaslog Smile ) The missus puts essential oils in a small pot & places it near the flame, she reckons this comes close to her personal heaven !

Don't get me wrong, I'd put in an open log burner grate or multi fuel stove in tomorrow if it didn't cost norf of £5grand to reopen the chimney & fit the flue . . . .
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