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Posted: 16:07 - 07 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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There's no chance of that happening until the EU stops being vindictive and spiteful.
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I signed. Its one of these details that needs to be ironed out, and not what anyone voted for. For most other products you can get temporary export papers like a Carnet. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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MarJay wrote: | A100man wrote: | I signed. Its one of these details that needs to be ironed out, and not what anyone voted for. For most other products you can get temporary export papers like a Carnet. |
Err... that's the tax, you need to pay for the Carnet fee. Also, what people voted for was an imaginary pie in the sky have your cake and eat it thing... The reality of Brexit is exactly this. |
There was always going to be a price to pay I don't think that was ever hidden - even Farage admitted there would be some difficult transitions if I recall . Johnson's cake and eat it statement was never helpful and came after the vote. too early to say if that price is worth it in my view. There will be winners and losers as usual. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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Skudd wrote: | Again what is the actual fine, sorry tax for doing so? Thousand or just a few hundred? Lets face it, if you can afford to tour europe, you can afford to pay the extra. |
I've found stuff that explains it better than the text in the petition does:
"An ATA carnet allows you to temporarily import goods for up to 12 months without incurring any duty. Costs for the carnet vary between £200-£350.
On top of the carnet itself, you must either hand over 40% of the value of the items on the carnet as collateral or buy insurance to cover the 40% figure. The idea being if you return home without the items on the carnet, you forfeit the deposit."
"Anecdotal evidence, however, suggests that confusion at the ports means that some customs officers are asking to see carnets for road-legal vehicles. If you turn up at the port without a carnet and the customs officers think you should have one and you can’t convince them otherwise, they have the right to turn you away, which could end your trip on the spot.
GBCC are recommending that before you take a trip to Europe, you should give them a call (0121 725 8996) and they will advise if you need a carnet.
But what about bike transports? Kevin Healy runs Focused Events, who transport hundreds of bikes to Almeria, Spain, each year for sun-baked trackday action.
"As soon as you hand over your bike to someone else to transport, even if it’s road-legal, it becomes goods and requires a carnet," says Healy. "But it also becomes much simpler. We only need one carnet for all the bikes we transport, which means the cost to the individual could be as little as £40 and there’s no paperwork for you to fill out. We can also obtain vouchers for people who want to leave their bikes with us at the circuit."
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/biking-after-brexit/
"If you like to take a biking holiday in Europe and you prefer to ship the bike out and back rather than riding it all the way then you may be affected by an unanticipated consequence of Brexit. Riding your own bike in and out of the EU remains straightforward and there is government guidance to refer to here. But if it’s in a van or on a trailer the situation on the borders is different.
But there is some emerging good news in this area if owners all accompany their bikes. Going by the feedback from various countries so far, you should be all right if you and your mate put your bikes in your mate’s van and travel together in the van to where you want to ride, though the exact border procedure may vary from country to country. The important thing here is that all the bike owners will be travelling with their bikes. There might be a greater possibility this year that you may get stopped away from the port – not uncommon in France – but if you have all the paperwork then you should be ok. But – and this is important – you must have originals of all your documents, particularly the V5. If you air-freight your bike via a ‘bonded’ freight forwarder into the EU, that will work similarly to doing this to other international destinations, with local customs rules applying.
Now that the requirements for each EU member state on ‘owner accompanied’ transportation are becoming clearer, the NMC have called for the Government to issue a guidance note for motorcyclists travelling with their own bikes in vans or on trailers, setting out what people can expect and what they need to do to prepare. If, however, you prefer to get your bike transported by a third party by road then a serious issue remains. Your bike is now freight carried by a third party and now that the UK is no longer in the EU it is subject to Customs regulations.
Yes, there are recognised procedures to temporarily export goods for show purposes and for racing – if your motorcycle is not road registered. In this case an ATA carnet is required – this can be dealt with by your shipper; costs a bit but that’s how it’s done. You’ll also need this carnet if you are taking your own unregistered motorcycle into the EU for a sports event or show. (You also have to demonstrate that everything you took into the EU you take back out again. For musicians it may be back to the days when a touring band had to keep all the broken violin strings, broken drumsticks and used saxophone reeds etc. until they were back in the UK). However an ATA carnet is definitely not intended to be used for a road-registered vehicle and anyway you really don’t want to have to pay for one. There is another sort of carnet, the Carnet de Passage en Douane, but that is even more expensive and in any case, most EU countries don’t recognise them.
So, what to do? The UK Customs and Excise department give you different answers depending on who you asked and the day of the week – i.e. they didn’t know. The NMC was approached by a few companies for whom transporting bikes has been their main business. Of course 2020 was a really bad year for them as no-one was going anywhere very much but at the beginning of this year the transitional period ended and then the border crossing problem was identified. In 2021 it is actually easier to ship a bike by sea or air to America or the Far East than to Europe – there are clearly recognised procedures for wider international destinations."
https://www.britishmotorcyclists.co.uk/motorcycle-freighting-into-the-eu/ |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 107 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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