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Posted: 01:56 - 09 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Very nice looking! You did a great job on it! Yes it's identical minus the tail light. I'll try to upload pictures here in a bit. |
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Yours looks like its possibly based on the original 1995-1999 YP250
with some cosmetic changes
The below diagram might help if it applies to your model
It's of limited use to me as mine has a 16 pin cdi /ecu thing
partly because of the tps on the carb.
Some aspects of the early models apply and some from the later
400cc EFI models which has made it a pita to get specific info on
The Yamaha YP250 Majesty seems to have spawned a few clones
Here a few I know of
Italjet Jupiter 250
Aprilia Leonardo 250
Linhai Aeolus/Classic 260
Here's the diagram I coloured in a bit for clarity
You can see how the brake switches (23/24) which when pulled
supply power to the starter relay (6) via relay 15.
the starter switch (17) takes the relay coil to ground when pressed
but this also relies on the state of the kill switch (18) which is connected to the CDI (10)and side stand switch (14) and cut out relay (15)
to set up the 'Run/Stop' conditions
I'm assuming the side stand switch is closed when it's up to allow
relay 15 supply power to the start system and also provide a ground to the CDI to allow sparks.
this also means you can stop the motor just by kicking the stand down
HTH
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Posted: 05:42 - 09 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Just found this which might help
I haven't checked it only glanced at it
but as Linhai may not follow Yamahas colour conventions it might be useful .
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it's a bit densly packed and incomplete but had a quick look and it seems to follow the same starting system process as the previous diagram.
also broadly similar cable colours like black for grounds
but not all because it uses a few purple cables which I dont recall on my Yamaha
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Posted: 15:33 - 09 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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WD Forte wrote: | Just found this which might help
I haven't checked it only glanced at it
but as Linhai may not follow Yamahas colour conventions it might be useful .
EDIT:
it's a bit densly packed and incomplete but had a quick look and it seems to follow the same starting system process as the previous diagram.
also broadly similar cable colours like black for grounds
but not all because it uses a few purple cables which I dont recall on my Yamaha
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Posted: 20:34 - 09 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Nothing odd happens when i activate the brake circuit. The only relays on this bike are the flasher and the starter relay. Every diagram i look at or find online mentions a starting circuit cutoff relay as well as the starter relay? I have no connectors left over. The mystery connector in my previous picture is for the glove compartment light. So literally the only wire that doesn't have a home is the single bl/r wire that is hot at all times. Weird.
The starter solenoid has the battery cable and starter cable connection and a 4 pin block. My ignition key switch has only 2 wires. Every diagram i see has at least 3 or 4.
Yeah somehow it's getting power to the start solenoid without the brake switches completing the circuit. Either i wired the main handlebar switches wrong or a p.o. did a hack job somewhere that i haven't found yet!
I thought about the switches being of the wrong kind NO/NC but the circuit has to be closed to turn on the brake light and that's what it's doing when i squeeze the lever. Perhaps i have the wrong wires for the start and kill switch or something silly like that. I'll go back through it to be absolutely sure. It was really late and i was rushing through when i probed and pinned.
I know what you mean about being hard to diagnose from a distance. I tell the same thing to people lol. I've been probing all over the place.. it has to be something simple going on.
Thank you for the diagrams and information! I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually. I'll post back if i notice anything i think is odd or if i get it sorted out. |
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Posted: 01:03 - 10 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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From the wiring diagrams if the starter switch were wired to a positive feed then the chain would be something like...
+ve > starter switch > relay > rear bulb > frame ground
Whereas what's meant to happen is...
+ve > brake switch > relay > starter switch > frame ground
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I do believe i wired the start/kill switches wrong. It's almost solved now. The start/kill and brake all works as it should but now i have no spark lol. The wire i mentioned that runs to the cdi and coil.. Key on, kill to run position, no volt. Pull brake lever and it shows 12v. So in this situation where it's ready to start..i hold the start button and all of the voltage vanishes, goes to 0. Grounding out somehow so I'll poke around some more. Perhaps a wire is still in the wrong spot. Frustrations. Lol
Big thanks to all of you for your help so far
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I hooked the cdi wire in with a hot that turns on with the key and now everything works. Crank and spark when the key is on, switch set to run and the brake is activated. No crank when switch is set to kill or key is off or when a brake is not activated. Also verified side stand switch when activated kills spark.
Not sure if this is the proper way but it seems to have fixed The problem. |
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Nice! Ask yourself these questions: does it work, is it safe, is it secure? That's all you need ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 107 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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