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Posted: 04:58 - 23 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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No real need to do so.
Just be as careful on the road as one always should be.
It's not often one has to turn any vehicle around in a u-turn. There's are obvious and unseen risks doing so.
Put your feet down if you want. No one is marking you.
Keep your speed down, smooth acceleration and braking until that becomes 2nd nature.
Avoid using shit that could cause distractions such as Navigators, mobile phones or iPods playing in your lug holes. There too much important shite to have to take in.
And if you crash on the road at least there will be someone around/come along to assist.
Fall off in an empty car park and next thing we know, you'll be one of those stories on Discovery Channel. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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The best practice is riding on the road - that way you'll build confidence as well as skill. Just take it slow and steady and if you ride with others, don't try to keep up if it doesn't feel comfortable and safe. Ride at your own pace and within your skill and ability. |
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Posted: 12:33 - 23 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Slow manouvers and hazard avoidance are things you'll be using every day anyway.
Slow riding is something you'll find yourself doing in stop-start traffic and when approaching traffic lights/junctions. If you can go into "slow ride" mode instead of stopping and starting, you'll find you progress much more smoothly through traffic.
I don't think the hazard avoidance exercise is particularly useful because it concentrates on the hazard. Train yourself to follow a particular path on the road, which focuses on looking at where you want to go, not at what you want to avoid. So when you see the likes of a drain cover, the focus isn't on the drain cover, it's on which is the best and smoothest line round it to put you in the best road position for the next part of the ride. By the time you're at it, it should already be over and done with and you should be concentrating on what's happening further up the road.
There would be an argument for periodically practicing hard braking somewhere quiet. Industrial estates on a Sunday are generally pretty empty. I used to recommend people feel what a front end slide is like (in a straight line under controlled conditions) but most bikes have ABS these days. I've never ridden on with ABS but I'd imagine it would be worth feeling what it's like when that kicks in so it doesn't come as a nasty surprise. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 17:46 - 23 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Last time I tried a U turn was about 30 years ago in Spain. The Mrs and I were touring on my old GSX750F, heavily laden with camping gear. I went the wrong way in Bilbao and ended up at a dead end with a couple of cafes overlooking. Thinking I was good and in 90 degree heat in leathers, I attempted to execute the perfect feet up U turn with an audience of old Spanish blokes watching intently. Needless to say I dropped it in slow motion halfway round, much to the delight of the old bastards, none of whom came over to help me pick it up...
Point being, think ahead and there is a fair chance you will never need to do a U turn so not much point practicing that. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
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Posted: 18:12 - 23 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: | Last time I tried a U turn was about 30 years ago in Spain. The Mrs and I were touring on my old GSX750F, heavily laden with camping gear. I went the wrong way in Bilbao and ended up at a dead end with a couple of cafes overlooking. Thinking I was good and in 90 degree heat in leathers, I attempted to execute the perfect feet up U turn with an audience of old Spanish blokes watching intently. Needless to say I dropped it in slow motion halfway round, much to the delight of the old bastards, none of whom came over to help me pick it up...
Point being, think ahead and there is a fair chance you will never need to do a U turn so not much point practicing that. |
Alternatively, if you'd practiced, you'd have done it no bother?
Perhaps you never do U-turns because you can't? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I was riding small bikes (50 then 100cc) for a couple of years before I passed my tests. Seemed enough to me to not have to practice off road anywhere after passing. Then went up to a big bike and just rode it a lot. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I don't remember doing it but its possible I might have done, as I lived directly opposite a big Sainsburys in Fulham
But pretty much with being in London, one had to go further than the carpark fairly soon, so there was no point staying there practising when I could get better experience on the road itself.
I remember famously stalling halfway across the junction of Vauxhall Bridge and the Embankment. Also, Bayswater Road on the way to Marblle Arch in rush hour is not a great time to stall. Even the cylists gave me gyp
Have a little go in a car park for a day or two if you've passed your CBT and still need a practice, but how far do you have to ride to get to one? Its all practice.
Just try to get out there and learn.
But yes, when learning, you should have no external interference in the way of headsets or music or whatever. You should learn to use your instincts and what little availability to sounds you have through your helmet, you need to HEAR STUFF going on around you!
Same about the u-eys: on some bikes I can do 'em easy, but on others, not so great. It's all about getting the riding time in to practice. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Posted: 19:17 - 23 Jan 2022 Post subject: Re: Practice After Passing Test |
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Abaaba wrote: | I have been few mid-range general rides on A and B roads but not to do any practice........... |
It can be beneficial to go for a ride with the specific intent to practice and improve your technique, without any other particular motive (like going somewhere with other riders, travelling to work etc.), simply so you're not under any other pressures (keeping up with other people, time pressure etc.), and can concentrate just on technique. You can also plan a route appropriate for that practice then (like including an industrial estate to practice your wheelies u-turns).
As for what you should be practicing, you know what you're weak on better than we do. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Posted: 00:28 - 24 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it - opinion seems to be split
Mod 2 was straight forward me but Mod 1 was my Achilles heel (failed twice before passing 3rd time )
which I assumed was also hard on most new riders, hence why I asked the question.
I guess no harm in just going out for the sole purpose of doing some slow-speed controls and building muscle memory of progressive braking. |
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Only advice I can add is leave more room in front. Cars generally have shorter stopping distances than bikes especially at low speeds where acar driver can dtop in less than your average reaction time but mostly because it gives you a time buffer to 'realise' what's happening. It's very hard to crash into empty space.
Oh, and don't be one of these dummies that ride along in traffic with their hazards going. Especially if it's dark and raining. It really makes it hard for the guy behind. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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stinkwheel wrote: | Diggs wrote: | Last time I tried a U turn was about 30 years ago in Spain. The Mrs and I were touring on my old GSX750F, heavily laden with camping gear. I went the wrong way in Bilbao and ended up at a dead end with a couple of cafes overlooking. Thinking I was good and in 90 degree heat in leathers, I attempted to execute the perfect feet up U turn with an audience of old Spanish blokes watching intently. Needless to say I dropped it in slow motion halfway round, much to the delight of the old bastards, none of whom came over to help me pick it up...
Point being, think ahead and there is a fair chance you will never need to do a U turn so not much point practicing that. |
Alternatively, if you'd practiced, you'd have done it no bother?
Perhaps you never do U-turns because you can't? |
That is a bit harsh from a bloke who makes his living from fingering animals!!! ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
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Depends on how long I think I'm going to be stopped for. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 89 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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