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Posted: 00:00 - 24 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Over two months gone by and I have done sweet FA with it. Just been too busy with work over November and December.
Well January and February are traditionally quiet so I'm hoping to get the project finished before the spring! So I can sell it along with my other MT10SP and buy a 1290 Super Duke GT (hopefully the funds from the sale of both bikes will be enough!).
Had another little go at it earlier.
Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | Mate that stator has taken some damage, you can see shards of it all over the magneto. I can't really tell from the picture, but is the magneto (flywheel) also damaged? |
As you rightly speculated, on closer inspection and cleaning the whole area up with WD40, I can see that the flywheel is indeed damaged. A small section of the outer rim is bent inwards. This is why it was giving me so much grief getting the stator out as the flywheel was pinching inwards on the stator! Similarly, the stator seated in the new cover doesn't want to go back in because the bent rim is giving difficulty getting the stator past it to sit nicely inside. So I think at the very least a new flywheel is in order. I just ordered a second hand one up from eBay for just under £150. A second hand stator is about the same again, another £150, but I've held back on that in the hope the existing one will be ok. I mean you can clearly see where some of the outer edge has scraped along that inner rim of the flywheel but I can't see why it wouldn't work still? It's just a graze.
So now I have to wait for yet more parts to arrive.
One question though - and this might seem like a dumb one but better to ask it anyway rather than make assumptions. For now I have removed the stator from the new cover, put the cover back on with the new gasket and new dowels and topped the engine up with oil. I tried to start it, it chugged and puffed a few times, didn't sound like it was sparking, and then the battery gave out so it's now on charge and I'll see if I can get it started now tomorrow.
Obviously I've not been able to see the engine running since I bought the bike as there has always been a hole in the engine casing and therefore no oil in the engine, so this is the first time it's been in a state able to hold its oil. So naturally I'm quite keen to see if I can get the bike running even if there's still quite a long way to go on the project.
I assume I don't actually need the stator in there to make the bike run? All that will result is the battery won't charge, right? At the moment I've just got the stator hanging down at the side of the bike.
I think I'm a bit over my head with this now so I was planning on getting it to my bike mechanic up the road to get him to help me finish the project. It's only 0.3 miles up the road but that's a long way to push a 200kg bike with a flat tyre and rusty brake discs! If I could just get the bike running I can limp it up there slowly. ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Posted: 13:47 - 24 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Depends if the trigger / pulser is part of the stator assembly, which on cursory use of google-fu, it does appear to be.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362541444510
So no it won't run without the flywheel and stator being present and fully functional. ____________________ Be a REAL MAN! |
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Posted: 17:56 - 24 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Ok I bit the bullet and ordered another stator.
I'm half-tempted to do this as cheap as possible, as I think the project is going to be a loss by the time it's finished. On the other hand, in my experience cutting corners can often lead to a bigger bill further down the line (or doing the same job twice) so yeah I think I'll just be thorough and get the job done properly and get rid of the bike knowing I won't have any come-backs.
Thanks for the advice regarding the crank, I'll check that out when I remove the flywheel!
I have circled a bit in green, is the bit I need to check for wobbles? Doesn't look like what I expected a crankshaft to look like...
Also the bit circled in red I presume is the bolt that holds the flywheel on. When I try to remove the bolt will this not just turn the engine over? How do I remove it without just spinning the engine? Put it in gear? Or could that damage the gearbox?
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Can someone help me with this please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0AT-NLsoM ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Magic. Thanks!
I saw the outside thread and did wonder if a special tool existed for the job. I'll see if my mechanic up the road has one as thy're nearly £40 on Ebay ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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You're right not to lever on it because 1. it won't come off that way anyway and 2. it'll wreck your cases.
You're also right when you say that it's just friction holding on the taper. Any taper less than 7 degrees angle is considered a self-holding taper, the shallower the angle thegreater the holding force.
If you didn't have the proper tool to screw on the outside threads then you might have been able to modify a cheap puller to pull through two of those holes, or even make one with nuts and bolts and a piece of thick plate. Hammering on the rotor is a great way to wreck your crank by bending the taper. Also breaks the magnets on the rotor if a person intended to re-fit it they would end up disappointed.
When you re-assemble it, no oil, no grease, no loctite just degrease both halves dry the taper and set it into place. You can loctite the fastener if you want/the manual says to but not the taper itself. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Posted: 01:50 - 28 Feb 2022 Post subject: |
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Great now I'm worried I've bent the crankshaft
I gave it a few forceful taps/bangs around the already-wrecked flywheel (hence the replacement) but I wasn't proper going to town on it or anything.
Probably should have put it in the hands of someone who actually knows what they're doing, or never starting the project in the first place. But it's a good learning curve for me, I'm enjoying it so far...
By widening my search slightly I managed to find a what appears to be compatible puller for £9.99 so I'll have to wait for that to be delivered I guess... ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 98 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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