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PostPosted: 10:22 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Michelin Road 6 (and Road 6 GT) Reply with quote

I absolutely love the Road 5's that I got on my Kwak. I was amazed at how good they are and the difference a set of tyres can make to the ride.

Wondering who on here will be the first to get Road 6's and give us their opinions on the differences:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2022/january/michelin-road-6-tyre/

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PostPosted: 14:10 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting they're bringing out the GT at the same time as the regular ones this time round. I usually have to wait a year or two to get ones for my big, lardy VFR.

And curses. I've got a brand new 5GT sat here ready to go on...
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be getting new tyres at the end of the month, tend to go Michelin these days.

Honestly I'm not sure I'd notice much difference between any of the last few generations of tyres.

In fact I reckon if I blind tested my favourites from 10 years ago (the Bridgestone BT023) vs the latest Pilot Road 6, I'd struggle to tell you which was which.

No doubt I'll still shell out for the sixes, I'm a sucker for good marketing I guess Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll be getting new tyres at the end of the month, tend to go Michelin these days.

Honestly I'm not sure I'd notice much difference between any of the last few generations of tyres.

In fact I reckon if I blind tested my favourites from 10 years ago (the Bridgestone BT023) vs the latest Pilot Road 6, I'd struggle to tell you which was which.

No doubt I'll still shell out for the sixes, I'm a sucker for good marketing I guess Laughing


I'm the same, I just don't push bikes that hard any more. As long as I feel confident I'm happy. I can't say I remember having a bad tyre from any reputable manufacturer for years.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the same until I switched to Road 5s from my old Pirelli Scorpions; the difference was night and day, especially in the wet.

My Road 5s are wearing very well, so no immediate plans, but when they're shot I'll probably go for the 6s (or 7s if they're out by then).

What's the diff between the normal ones and the GT ones? Think I looked into it at the time and concluded the GT ones are for properly heavy bikes like the RT, Goldwing etc.. but maybe I misread and they'd actually have been better suited on my VFR800X?
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I'm the same, I just don't push bikes that hard any more. As long as I feel confident I'm happy. I can't say I remember having a bad tyre from any reputable manufacturer for years.

Me too. Last bad tyre I remember was the BT021 (I think?) about a decade ago. The last tyres I changed were Angel ST for Road 5 and I can't tell the difference. But as you say, I'm probably just not pushing hard enough to highlight any differences.

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What's the diff between the normal ones and the GT ones? Think I looked into it at the time and concluded the GT ones are for properly heavy bikes like the RT, Goldwing etc

I came to the same conclusion at the time I was looking. I kind of see the VFR as a lardy middleweight rather than a lightish tourer, so I stuck with the standard ones. Would be interested if anyone has tried both what the difference is though (although as mentioned above, I probably couldn't tell anyway...).
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna be getting some new shoes when I move into my new place (with a freaking garage !!) in June. Until then the bike's in storage...

Anyway, will likely be getting a set of these. Not sure how old the tyres are on the bike right now, but I literally can't find a date code on them and they're not exactly confidence inspiring in the corners.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:

What's the diff between the normal ones and the GT ones? Think I looked into it at the time and concluded the GT ones are for properly heavy bikes like the RT, Goldwing etc.. but maybe I misread and they'd actually have been better suited on my VFR800X?


I'm a big guy, I always have luggage on and I do a fair bit of motorway schelpping between hooning so I figure they'll last longer before squaring off. Seems to be working out ok.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 25 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll be getting new tyres at the end of the month, tend to go Michelin these days.

Honestly I'm not sure I'd notice much difference between any of the last few generations of tyres.

In fact I reckon if I blind tested my favourites from 10 years ago (the Bridgestone BT023) vs the latest Pilot Road 6, I'd struggle to tell you which was which.

No doubt I'll still shell out for the sixes, I'm a sucker for good marketing I guess Laughing


If it hadn't been for longevity improvements and they still made them, I'd probably still be on Road 2s. Oh for bike tyres that last even half as long as car tyres! It's such a huge part of the cost of running more powerful bikes.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't been a fan since the Road 4. Never had a tyre that tramlined and provided such vague steering feedback before. They were fitted to several vastly different bikes I'd owned from the dealer and weren't old nor particularly worn.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

PotatoHead2020 wrote:
Haven't been a fan since the Road 4. Never had a tyre that tramlined and provided such vague steering feedback before. They were fitted to several vastly different bikes I'd owned from the dealer and weren't old nor particularly worn.


I've used 2s and 4s on my Fazers (1000), and 2s on a Street Triple. Never had those problems. Perhaps reinforces the subjectiveness of tyre choice.
A lot of people like certain Bridgestones that I never did. I'm not saying that those who do don't know what they're talking about. Just that subjectiveness, perhaps certain tyres suiting the way some people ride but not others, or what some like about how certain tyres perform but not others.
I do however think I've seen a lot more praise for the Michelin Road series than criticism, and not just here on BCF.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

PotatoHead2020 wrote:
Haven't been a fan since the Road 4. Never had a tyre that tramlined and provided such vague steering feedback before. They were fitted to several vastly different bikes I'd owned from the dealer and weren't old nor particularly worn.


That's not been my experience either and I've used the Michelins since PR2 days. There was one front that was prone to wearing oddly (PR3?) but even that didn't significantly change the handling. My Road 5s are superb and give confident handling in both wet and dry conditions. Perhaps your pressures were off?

The only other major brand I go for is Metzeler Smile
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front on the 4 wore slightly oddly for me, but I'm hard on fronts. The 5 has been much better at holding its shape.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
PotatoHead2020 wrote:
Haven't been a fan since the Road 4. Never had a tyre that tramlined and provided such vague steering feedback before. They were fitted to several vastly different bikes I'd owned from the dealer and weren't old nor particularly worn.


That's not been my experience either and I've used the Michelins since PR2 days. There was one front that was prone to wearing oddly (PR3?) but even that didn't significantly change the handling. My Road 5s are superb and give confident handling in both wet and dry conditions. Perhaps your pressures were off?

The only other major brand I go for is Metzeler Smile


I don't recall the exact model of tyres that were on my ER-6F when I bought it but I do remember the feeling when I got on her after she got her brand new PR5's and the difference in feeling was incredible. It just gave me so much more confidence on the bike. Remembering that feeling, I just can't go back now and will stick with PR5/6's going forward.

Also remember there being a big difference in feeling on deceleration in gear, which I assume was because the sprockets and chain were brand new as well.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember having some Bridgestones (fitted as OEM) on my Busa. It ate the rear in about a thousand miles. I never had a Bridgstone after that on any bike. Laughing Handled OK though.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 26 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I remember having some Bridgestones (fitted as OEM) on my Busa. It ate the rear in about a thousand miles. I never had a Bridgstone after that on any bike. Laughing Handled OK though.


Busa with a Polarbear on it - what did you expect? Laughing
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I just replaced my 4 in favour of my usual Angel ST. While the 4 was great, I did find when it started to get close to the limit they would just let go when you applied power, and very quickly you lost all feeling. It just seemed to go from "this is lovely" to "oh bugger I cant turn" very fast.

Last week I twisted the throttle, engine went voom, rear wheel went voom, rest of the bike didnt go any faster. Pinkys buttocks got very tight.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 01 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just replaced my 4 in favour of my usual Angel ST. While the 4 was great, I did find when it started to get close to the limit they would just let go when you applied power, and very quickly you lost all feeling. It just seemed to go from "this is lovely" to "oh bugger I cant turn" very fast.

Last week I twisted the throttle, engine went voom, rear wheel went voom, rest of the bike didnt go any faster. Pinkys buttocks got very tight.


Hence the 5s and 6s. I also found the fronts in the 4 feathered quite badly.

They claim a 2/3 worn road 5 has the same grip as a brand new PR4. Having gone through a couple of each, I'd believe it.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 05 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, no 6s available for weeks, and no 5s for a few days.

Bridgestone T32's it is!
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 05 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I remember having some Bridgestones (fitted as OEM) on my Busa. It ate the rear in about a thousand miles. I never had a Bridgstone after that on any bike. Laughing Handled OK though.


I managed to polish off the Conti Attacks on the KTM in about 3000 miles. That shocked me somewhat.

Even the Metzelers on the R Nine T did ~6000 miles before they were knackered (although I pushed them to 7k anyway and rode around Wales with a rear tyre that was well and truly fit for the bin.... doh).
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 25 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
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I just replaced my 4 in favour of my usual Angel ST. While the 4 was great, I did find when it started to get close to the limit they would just let go when you applied power, and very quickly you lost all feeling. It just seemed to go from "this is lovely" to "oh bugger I cant turn" very fast.

Last week I twisted the throttle, engine went voom, rear wheel went voom, rest of the bike didnt go any faster. Pinkys buttocks got very tight.


Hence the 5s and 6s. I also found the fronts in the 4 feathered quite badly.

They claim a 2/3 worn road 5 has the same grip as a brand new PR4. Having gone through a couple of each, I'd believe it.


PR4 scalloped on the front for me too, but it didn't make any difference to the ride. I fitted Road5's and that wore in a similar manner, maybe slight improvement on the PR4. They just seem to inspire confidence in all weathers.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 25 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PR4 scalloped on the front for me too, but it didn't make any difference to the ride. I fitted Road5's and that wore in a similar manner, maybe slight improvement on the PR4. They just seem to inspire confidence in all weathers.


I have been riding all through this winter on my Kwak and I am so happy I got these tyres. They feel so good even this morning at 3 degrees and in the slush on the way to work.

The only thing that's annoying me riding in the winter now is that my chain is getting a bit rusty even though I am cleaning it off with a rag and cleaner after every single ride (just keep them in the top box) and lubricating it after every cleaning.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 25 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly think it's just a modern tyre thing.

The Bridgestone T32's I got are just as good as the PR5's I replaced, they're impressively grippy even in shitty January weather.

If you're a nerd like me you might find this test quite interesting: https://grippingstories.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/210428_BRIDGESTONE-test-report-Motorcycle-tyre-comparison-V2_ENG2_sub.pdf
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 26 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems that Road 6s are available,but at that price I shall continue to fit PR3s to the front of the Exup.....

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/motorcycle-tyre/michelin-road-6-120-70zr17-58-w-front-tl-m-c#379393439

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/motorcycle-tyre/michelin-pilot-road-3-120-70zr17-58-w-front-tl-m-c#379393600

From experience with this company,they are not old stock but recently manufactured.
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