Highway code changes, cars and cyclists

UncleFester · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Jun 2013 Karma :

So a min gap of 1.5m must be maintained when overtaking them. They can now legally be 2 abreast too.

Does anyone else wonder how that works if you are halfway past a line of parked cars and the lycra brigade then force their way through.

No gap available of 1.5M available. Do you then have to reverse back to a suitable point....

I foresee comedy carnage with the new powers bestowed on them giving them the 100% option to be dead right.

Any number of scenarios spring to mind where they will now insist on their legal right being enforced.

If I'm on the bike it's no bother but around the narrow leafy lanes of Hertfordshire the Tour De Twat are going to be a nightmare for cars.
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doggone · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

It is a problem when as is typical round here there's a straggly group of ten or more over about 100 yards.
Chances of overtaking all of them are slim so it Ok to just barge back in between them Laughing

Usually I have a big pickup with trailer on you can't accelerate or brake like a car, but neither do you want to look a lycra bottoms for 10 minutes while barely able to run in second gear.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

It actually says:
"never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends"

Which is actually an improvement from what it used to say.
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UncleFester · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Jun 2013 Karma :

I dunno ... 'its not a narrow road / it's not that busy' etc etc. The ones we get around here will milk this for all they think it's worth.

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2022/01/new-2022-highway-code-changes-are-you-aware-of-the-new-rules/

Full list here. It requires both parties not to be knobbers .....
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Fat Angry Scotsman · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Jan 2021 Karma :

Fucking hate cyclists.

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Orbea aren't that bad. Sad

Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

So as I see it, cyclists and the like don't have to try and go round the inside lanes of a roundabout and should be indicating in the outside lane that they are turning right.

Not an issue to deal with.

People clearly waiting to cross on minor roads at junctions have to be given right of way.

Also not a problem.

Finally, the Dutch reach. It says should and not shall or must so as long as you check behind before opening the door, also not a problem. You should be doing that anyway.
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UncleFester · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Jun 2013 Karma :

It's not what you should or should not be doing, it's what people weren't doing and now the onus is placed ever further on the motorist.

Zero fcuks given about red light jumping or a mandatory offside bar end mirror etc.

The fact we've not enough real coppers to enforce anything at all and cameras that are only any good at identifying the identifiable.

I guess time will tell.
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A100man · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :

I pedal cycle more often that motorcycle these days and I have to say it's not easy out there. I commute in jeans and a hi-viz cycle anorak I don't own any lycra and I do also find the weekend 'tour de twats' a bit annoying at times.
But like all factions there's twats and good old boys in every group. Taxi's cars, lorries you name it, hell even motorcyclists..
On this occasion I'm siding with the cyclists who like motorcyclist do need some extra recognition as a valid road user.
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Just to add to that, as an extension of how well most drivers have it currently; creeping into a bike box at lights is a 3 point offence but 95% of drivers do it, even the long serving professional bus/taxi/breakdown folk.
No Police ever enforce it, I have been told by several officers "we can't be bothered to do that"

Alot of bike boxes are there to provide a safe space for bikes to wait.
They also serve as a brilliant way to shorten those half mile queues when all the Karens are on the school run, so having a little car sized box at the front puts all the half dozen bikes in a suitable place, rather than them each taking up a hot hatch space in said queue between the Evoque's making it a fair bit longer.

When I see idiots creeping into it only to get no further forwards it irritates me, because there is no advantage. it's actually helping out every motorist in the queue to have a bike box used by bikes.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Interestingly, it's also illegal for bikes to enter quite a large number of the "bike boxes" you see about the place when the light is red. Unless they remembered to put a section of cycle lane leading into them AND the cyclist uses that cycle lane to enter them. Otherwise the solid white line is the stop line and if you cross it on red, you are comitting an offence.
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