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The comments on the original video are a bit weird... in the sense that they all say the same thing: variations on "it looks much better" and "wow, those guys were super helpful." CBA to scroll through them all but I didn't see any "WTF, dude!?" Surely somebody "normal" might stumble across the the video and pass comment
Reminds me of all those 5 star Trustpilot reviews that are definitely by real ppl  ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Bhud wrote: | I get the feeling that something is wrong with this story. |
There's definitely something going on with Chris and his "guilt work". He did the work originally (as a sub contractor), and he rescued TMF's bike from a closed business next door. On the surface, he's already done a good turn for TMF, why would he be doing all this other work for free?
There's definitely something up there. Maybe he was more involved with the RE dealership than he lets on. Maybe he's more culpable for the mistakes made in the original customisation than he's admitted. Maybe he feels unjustifiably guilty for his part in the whole saga. Maybe he just wants the good publicity of TMF's channel. But the amount of work he's done is way more than you'd think would be justified, from the story we've been told, on the surface at least. There's definitely more to it, but I don't think we'll ever know the real story. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR (Dead), '00 VFR800FI, 2011 CBF125 Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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My inner Sherlock Holmes finds this case to be of some interest.
Of course, if you're in any way critical of TMF then you're obviously envious of something or the other, so let's get that out of the way... Whatever. There are a lot of cap-doffers, and this is still a country where some people still think Premium Bonds are a good investment and savings choice. Plus, most people don't understand how the Youtube algorithm works (i.e. you pay for a certain number of views until your channel and videos are picked up by the system and recommended to everyone). So, putting the reactions of the simpleminded to the side for one moment, here are some curious things I noticed and have been pondering:
1) Under the original video posted by TMF where he said he'd been shafted, a lot of people said he had more money than sense. Most of those comments have now been deleted. TMF's response to them was: "That makes me feel much better, coming from someone poor and stupid". He posted that standard line LOTS of times. This has now changed, and he posts "Got to love the internet!"
Why is he now hiding his true thoughts and feelings, if he's so rich he can do what he wants without worrying about what sponsors and patrons think? Or perhaps he can't afford to say what he really thinks, as he desperately needs that sponsorship money and the Patreon donations? Who knows?
2) There are a number of accounts that post rumours about TMF, under Workshop's videos. Some of these accounts have been deleted. Maybe they were TMF himself? I don't know. However, here are some of the dubious rumours that were spread:
- TMF is a professional airline pilot
- TMF earns $500K per annum as an airline pilot
It strikes me as odd he would be paid in USD. Furthermore, I can't find any reference to a commercial airline pilot salary in the UK commensurate with that extremely high figure.
3) Under the comments under his original video, which he has also deleted now, TMF himself claimed the following:
- He'd been having serious business/financial problems recently, and this disturbed his mind, which caused him to overspend willy-nilly on the pos Enfield. I don't know if that's true - of course I have my own suspicions about this claim's veracity. But is he in business or is he an airline pilot? Or is he in over his head in debts? Hmm. Appeal for sympathy, in any case, and a clear contradiction of his avowed appreciation for the bike right now...
- A parent of his had died. Claim for sympathy? True or false? One of those things which is a serious faux pas to question, so let's not go down that route... However, he did claim that this had upset his mind and influenced a poor series of decisions to fund this bike. Again, this doesn't quite add up, as he's saying he loves the bike.
4) Also under the original video, a number of comments called Steve (the original Bike Den guy) a "thief". TMF "loved" those comments. Then a user called Kerridge stepped in and, with apparent authority, left a comment saying that in his professional legal opinion, TMF should be very careful about making such claims or approving them. Those comments are all gone now, as is Kerridge's comment.
In addition to all this, separate from the Enfield debacle, there have been other rumours spread around about TMF, e.g. on BCF, which he has done nothing to debunk. For example:
- TMF is a former military officer (really?)
I think it would be great if someone could send him a note to come on here and clear up a few facts and (mis-)conceptions, so that we have a clearer understanding and don't get anything twisted. Wouldn't want to jump to any assumptions now...
Anyone remember the 70s TV show (repeated through the 80s and 90s) called Minder? Hilarious character in it called Arthur Daley... He was a big man, and had a Jaguar,, a big coat and a cigar to prove it! Occasionally, it was funny as he met his match and was outwitted by someone who saw him coming. |
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Damn right I am jealous. I make good money and I still couldn't afford to be shagged out of £15k and laugh it off as "nobody died". Some cunt would have died in my case. |
It's a really curious case. How do you leverage a mass-produced Ducati, a normal Gold Wing, a bodged Enfield, etc.? Not exactly a Ferrari GTO or RR Silver Shadow type of deal, where you leverage it to produce more wealth (exhibiting or leasing) or to preserve your wealth, or as an investment, or to pass on your wealth.
People who are actually wealthy didn't become wealthy by wasting tens of thousands on getting someone to affix Ebay junk to a "cafe racer" that wouldn't even pass muster at the Bike Shed as it doesn't have a lith battery and transparent under-seat, still has standard swingarm and standard front end and standard wheels... Doesn't make much sense. That's unless you look at it from outside the bubble of bike Youtubers, perhaps. The world of today is a world of scam, right? Fake it 'till you make it. Instagram influencers taking pictures of themselves in front of flash cars in Dubai, etc. What makes this any different, I wonder? He is basically a social media "influencer". I don't believe for one moment truly wealthy people piss money up the wall like this. They are the sort who buy Rolex steelies rather than Tag Heuer, because they're aware of residual value, resale value, appreciation vs depreciation, etc. There are a lot of one-time-use Youtube accounts averring that TMF is wealthy. I mean, I don't know if he's wealthy or if this is his Youtube act and his Youtube thing is his main gig, but this story and the way it's continually developing seems strange. I would need more information. Doesn't make sense he sold his "favourite bike" - the Triumph - either. He said it's because it wasn't worth the insurance, but that doesn't make sense as he probably has a multi-bike policy. Hmm... |
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Fuck knows what's going on but i'll say this - there's a slightly desperate, weird and wired glint in his eyes at times just lately, very much at odds with the simpering "Hi kids!" branding of previously.
The mask slips...
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | |
It does look cool, but all bikes have better lines without indicators, a brake light or a number plate.  ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR (Dead), '00 VFR800FI, 2011 CBF125 Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Actually machined aluminium parts, an actual custom rear subframe and not a cut-and-shut £15 Ebay Chinese "hoop", and they've gone to the trouble of making that hollowed-out look (requires lithium battery and seat undertray for electrics) which is mandatory in their niche custom scene. Plus, the USD forks, probably with a machine shop having done the yokes. Actual professional work has gone into that, and there's still profit in it for someone even when they're selling it for £5K less than TMF paid for his. |
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Ayrton wrote: | Also just found out he has a plane so cant be doing badly for money. According to his website the youtube channel is only half his income, so you have to wonder what his part time job must be if it keeps him with enough money to buy all that stuff. |
This is where I smell blood, tbh.
I'm not convinced he owns a plane. I smell a rat, because so many one-time-use accounts popped up on Youtube commenting that he owns:
1) a plane
2) a fleet of cars
Tbh it's really hard to know the financial status of strangers. I wonder who's putting out these rumours, and why. Maybe to give the impression: "I'm not just doing this Youtube thing because I desperately need the money - I'm a millionaire, guv! Swear to God!"
If he owned a plane, do you think he's the sort of guy who would post a pic of it on his website? I think he would. After all, he calls himself a "flyer". I can imagine him being a member of a flying club or having a pilot's licence, and being proud of that. And why not? But his persona strikes me as fake-rich. He might part-own a plane, and shares it with several other people. He might have a hire-purchase deal on a Range Rover or something. But owning his own plane? Nah - ask for proof because that's very rare. If I owned a plane or a yacht while being interested in bikes, I would probably own a fleet of classic bikes as well. He doesn't have even one. And my garage wouldn't have leftover kitchen cabinet doors in it. And if you're on the computer all the time as a Youtuber, why wouldn't you have a nice big modern computer screen for your desktop computer? A nice £500 screen and not - whatever that thing is he uses. |
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It's not his plane. It's a shared plane he rented. The floatplane was rented too.
https://www.cavendishaviation.net/gigglshares
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 93 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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