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Posted: 10:38 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: Electric planes |
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I'm putting this here in the wake of the Tesla discussion.
I never knew electric planes were so far along but reading between the lines, despite the rosy slant, I'm a bit (lot) sceptical.(obviously, being a luddite )
https://www.afar.com/magazine/electric-planes-are-coming-sooner-than-you-think?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
United Airlines announced in July that it’s buying 100 19-seater, zero-emission electric planes from Swedish startup Heart Aerospace;
the Wright 1, an all-electric, 186-seat commercial passenger jet with an 800-mile range that’s targeted to enter service around 2030. Up sooner still, Wright Electric additionally announced in November plans for an electric 100-seater, the Wright Spirit, due out in 2026.
The only one really worth talking about at the moment is the one above. 186 seats with 800 mile range. But is that a best scenario 800 mile range? That could drop to say 600 miles if the weather is shitty. Also, what about the extra fuel margins aircraft are required to carry in case of emergencies?
https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/ask-a-pilot/how-much-fuel-are-aircraft-required-to-carry/
It will be interesting to see if this ever becomes viable or if it's a dead end which will be replaced by something completely different like fuel cells (which I would think most people would expect).
Just as an aside, I presume, looking at what little I can find about it, electric planes would revert back to propeller power? ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Posted: 10:52 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: |
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I doubt any of us will see it in our lifetimes. The restriction isn't with how the planes use the power, but how the power is stored. Energy density is key, the rest doesn't really matter.
I develop amphibious engines to be used in full sized UAV's, mostly within R&D and testing, and there's no hope whatsoever for an electric full-sized aircraft. It doesn't scale well.
Media stuff is literally garbage, and so is Elon Musk. ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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Posted: 12:02 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: Re: Electric planes |
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Polarbear wrote: | I'm putting this here in the wake of the Tesla discussion.
I never knew electric planes were so far along but reading between the lines, despite the rosy slant, I'm a bit (lot) sceptical.(obviously, being a luddite )
https://www.afar.com/magazine/electric-planes-are-coming-sooner-than-you-think?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
United Airlines announced in July that it’s buying 100 19-seater, zero-emission electric planes from Swedish startup Heart Aerospace;
the Wright 1, an all-electric, 186-seat commercial passenger jet with an 800-mile range that’s targeted to enter service around 2030. Up sooner still, Wright Electric additionally announced in November plans for an electric 100-seater, the Wright Spirit, due out in 2026.
The only one really worth talking about at the moment is the one above. 186 seats with 800 mile range. But is that a best scenario 800 mile range? That could drop to say 600 miles if the weather is shitty. Also, what about the extra fuel margins aircraft are required to carry in case of emergencies?
https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/ask-a-pilot/how-much-fuel-are-aircraft-required-to-carry/
It will be interesting to see if this ever becomes viable or if it's a dead end which will be replaced by something completely different like fuel cells (which I would think most people would expect).
Just as an aside, I presume, looking at what little I can find about it, electric planes would revert back to propeller power? |
Absolute fucking bunkum for the reasons shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMmaG_3NnGs
Simply cannot get the energy density needed. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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Posted: 12:12 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: Re: Electric planes |
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Author is this young Lady..
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elissagaray/
no disrespect but it's hardly 'New Scientist' calibre is it? ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 12:39 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: Re: Electric planes |
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Tits and Garay then? ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Posted: 16:41 - 17 Mar 2022 Post subject: Re: Electric planes |
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I, for one, would hit that. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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What's wrong with having a Linked In account?
It's not exactly the moral equivalent of having brunch at Spoonies, is it.
I get different "things" from different social media. I'm quite erratic about which ones I spend time on.
But its definitely about different things. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 34 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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