Electric planes

[Polarbear]

I'm putting this here in the wake of the Tesla discussion.

I never knew electric planes were so far along but reading between the lines, despite the rosy slant, I'm a bit (lot) sceptical.(obviously, being a luddite )

https://www.afar.com/magazine/electric-planes-are-coming-sooner-than-you-think?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

United Airlines announced in July that it’s buying 100 19-seater, zero-emission electric planes from Swedish startup Heart Aerospace;

the Wright 1, an all-electric, 186-seat commercial passenger jet with an 800-mile range that’s targeted to enter service around 2030. Up sooner still, Wright Electric additionally announced in November plans for an electric 100-seater, the Wright Spirit, due out in 2026.

The only one really worth talking about at the moment is the one above. 186 seats with 800 mile range. But is that a best scenario 800 mile range? That could drop to say 600 miles if the weather is shitty. Also, what about the extra fuel margins aircraft are required to carry in case of emergencies?

https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/ask-a-pilot/how-much-fuel-are-aircraft-required-to-carry/

It will be interesting to see if this ever becomes viable or if it's a dead end which will be replaced by something completely different like fuel cells (which I would think most people would expect).

Just as an aside, I presume, looking at what little I can find about it, electric planes would revert back to propeller power?
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[mattsprattuk]

I doubt any of us will see it in our lifetimes. The restriction isn't with how the planes use the power, but how the power is stored. Energy density is key, the rest doesn't really matter.

I develop amphibious engines to be used in full sized UAV's, mostly within R&D and testing, and there's no hope whatsoever for an electric full-sized aircraft. It doesn't scale well.

Media stuff is literally garbage, and so is Elon Musk.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

It works with drones okay.

https://www.airbus.com/en/products-services/defence/uas/uas-solutions/zephyr
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[MCN]

The phrase/term Zero Emissions aye catches my eye in these outbursts.


I think it would be more adult/responsible to call them minimal emissions. Manufacturing anything involves emissions of one thing or another.
Even after we sort out that fossil fuel thing we love doing.

A hole big Thermodynamic-Conservation of Energy equation debate-ary.
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[Easy-X]

Planes might be a good target for hydrogen. I'd imagine there's a sweet spot for the storage tank weight for it to become viable.

It's an issue of scale. For small things like drones the tank weighs proportionally quite a bit even when empty and batteries (which weight the same regardless of charge state) might not weigh much more. Scale up to 747 and the tank weight is tiny vs the fuel and relative to the rest of the plane.
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[A100man]

[Polarbear]

[MCN]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[MCN]

[Nobby the Bastard]

I doin't have one....
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[WD Forte]

Yeah its all energy density, powah to weight stuff innit?
Drones maybe because no seats, passengers, crew, luggage and all the weight of that and related stuff to cater for.

Cant see an electric A380 with 300+ passengers taking off from Heathrow and flying non stop to Hong Kong any time soon.
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[hellkat]

What's wrong with having a Linked In account?
It's not exactly the moral equivalent of having brunch at Spoonies, is it.

I get different "things" from different social media. I'm quite erratic about which ones I spend time on.
But its definitely about different things.
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[pepperami]

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[stinkwheel]

Well, things move on eh? What we knew yeaterday isn't the same as what we'll know tomorrow.

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[recman]

I came here looking for a discussion on powered wood shaving devices.

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[MCN]

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