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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 25 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Agreed.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 25 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I'm glad to be British.


What is it that makes you glad to be British?
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, just those socialist things like the safety net for those with no earning potential, the NHS, state pension etc.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Socialism doesn't strike me as a particularly British thing. You could get a lot more of that in China.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
Socialism doesn't strike me as a particularly British thing.



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PostPosted: 11:07 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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chickenstrip wrote:
Socialism doesn't strike me as a particularly British thing.



Seriously Shocked


So explain to me how socialism is innately British?
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:



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So explain to me how socialism is innately British?[/quote]

Im not taking the bait. You know full well there's a uniquely british socialist history which has been fundemental to the development of our society.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bait? It's a simple enough question. Can't you answer it?
Our history goes back over a thousand years. The character of the country has been influenced by all of it, and very little of it has known socialism. Socialism is a baby by comparison with the rest.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, would you go back to feudalism?
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So, would you go back to feudalism?


What a peculiar question Laughing
Is it just socialism or feudalism in your mind then? No other possibilities?
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Socialism is French Sad

That Western governments evolved to be more socialist might be born out of the fear of the massive bloodshed observed with the French and Russian Revolutions Thinking

tl;dr socialism does not equate to "good" but not socialism equates to death Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Socialism is French Sad

That Western governments evolved to be more socialist might be born out of the fear of the massive bloodshed observed with the French and Russian Revolutions Thinking

tl;dr socialism does not equate to "good" but not socialism equates to death Shocked


Very true. The fear in Georgian high society in England was that the workers could rise up like the French did and indulge in a bit of head lopping of the ruling classes. It focussed their policies for many years, both good and bad. The stick and carrot. Bugger all to do with 'socialism' in my view though, that's a post industrialism concept.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
Bait? It's a simple enough question. Can't you answer it?
Our history goes back over a thousand years. The character of the country has been influenced by all of it, and very little of it has known socialism. Socialism is a baby by comparison with the rest.


I can answer it, so can you but you just want to ignore the British contribution to the development of socialist history and so undermine or even ignore the part it has to play in the progress our society has made.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Socialism is French Sad

That Western governments evolved to be more socialist might be born out of the fear of the massive bloodshed observed with the French and Russian Revolutions Thinking

tl;dr socialism does not equate to "good" but not socialism equates to death Shocked


Socialism is no more French than communism is Russian.

Heres some clues we can let Chikenstrip overhear, Communism has its roots more in China than Europe, for socialism the English civil war was key and before that you could look at non conformism and challanges to Papal power and Catholic thinking in the 15th century.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
The "socialism" that gets everyone killed is definitely French, I'll carry on blaming 'em Wink
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:


Heres some clues we can let Chikenstrip overhear, Communism has its roots more in China than Europe, for socialism the English civil war was key and before that you could look at non conformism and challanges to Papal power and Catholic thinking in the 15th century.


Oh, Henry VIII was a socialist, was he? Well, I never knew that! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 26 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Oh, Henry VIII was a socialist, was he? Well, I never knew that! Laughing


Come on catch up,

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Are you now trying to claim that More was a socialist? Confused
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 27 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Are you now trying to claim that More was a socialist? Confused


No.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 27 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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chickenstrip wrote:
Are you now trying to claim that More was a socialist? Confused


No.


I know. You haven't a clue what you're on about, and neither have I Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 27 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Back on topic.

'St George's day' these days is more like 'Post on social media about how St George was actually Turkish' etc. etc.

Even though Turkey didn't exist back then.
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