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mattdarla
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: 1992 Honda C90 Cub as First Bike, 10,000 Miles Reply with quote

Hi Everyone

Really appreciate all the advice so far, actually something Japanese has come up, a friend has offered to sell me his 1992 Honda C90 Cub with 10,000 on the clock that is currently in storage, it has a few scratches and dinks, and also only has a pannier rack without the rear luggage rack and top box, not sure about any rust as I haven't seen it yet.

I was just wondering if this would be a good bike to learn to ride on. One of my major worries would be getting too used to an automatic clutch and then struggling to pass my DAS course on a geared 650cc though. It would also be nice to have something that would do 50mph too and would be capable of long distances / day trips without filling up every couple of hours, he was asking around £1750 - £1850 for it but I've seen similar ones for £1400 - £1500 (he paid £1500 a few years ago) and I'd be the third owner, any thoughts and advice would be brilliant, I passed my CBT in March, hope you're all having a great weekend.

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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i was in your position i wouldn't want it - i'd be after something with the same controls as the school's A2 bike.

I might - MIGHT - have it if it was free.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't sound as if it's the right kind of bike for you. That kind of money will get you something like a yamaha ybr that will do close to 70mph and be far more useful for learning riding skills you can use for the DAS.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's outrageously expensive. I just bought a 2016 Honda Wave 110 which is a more modern version of the C90 with fuel injection, telescopic forks and disc brakes. Excellent cosmetic condition, nothing missing for £1400.

Don't get me wrong, C90s are great bikes but people are buying them to "re-live their youth". 10 years ago, that bike would have been 10 years newer and you'd have paid £800 for it. On a poorly looked after C90 it WILL have rust on the frame up under the rear mudguard which will need patching/welding if it hasn't already been done. MOT testers know to look for it.

If you're after that style of bike, look for Innovas and Waves but as above, if the intention is to train for your test, you probably want something with a clutch.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you all mean, really appreciate your opinions, I've just seen a 1985 Honda Benly Twin 125cc on Faacebook with 12,000 miles on it for £1,500, it looks like a better bet, what do you guys think?
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattdarla wrote:
I know what you all mean, really appreciate your opinions, I've just seen a 1985 Honda Benly Twin 125cc on Faacebook with 12,000 miles on it for £1,500, it looks like a better bet, what do you guys think?


Do you want a "classic" bike? Are you into fettling and maintaining old vehicles?

If you're not, and your intention is learning to ride, you can buy something much newer (YBR125 is the usual suggestion but there are others) for £1500.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for the Benly twin (I had to google it). Far more man points. YBR's are like hens teeth and cost a fortune because everyone recommends one as a go to 125. I had a Honda VT125 Shadow, absolutely that was a great bike but my goodness they are expensive now Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 15 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you cant find a YBR for £1500, you could save a few hundred and get a Honda CBF.

Buy one that looks knackered, ideally written off in a previous life, pay peanuts and move on with a more decent bike when you've passed your test.

Unless it smokes badly, it's unlikely that there's anything wrong with it .....

yours for £1200 measly quid .... interestingly, its got all its original indicators , on the correct stalks, so I'd definitely want a test ride to identify where the CAT N came from .... the guy will MOT it for a year if you pay the full 1200..... its a no-brainer for me .....



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PostPosted: 08:28 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

But for you, a geared 125 will be a better bet and unless you want to spend time learning mechanics, not just learning riding, a modern 125 will be a better bet.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

struan80 wrote:
YBR's are like hens teeth and cost a fortune


They really aren't, and there are plenty of decent examples amongst the ropey ones. I see a couple come up on gumtree in my area every week.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=ybr%20125&_sacat=422&rt=nc&_udhi=1500

https://www.gumtree.com/search?featured_filter=false&q=YBR125&max_price=1500&search_category=motorbikes-scooters&urgent_filter=false&sort=date&search_distance=1000&search_scope=false&photos_filter=false&search_location=CF454es&tl=&distance=1000
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:
Remarks about them being expensive are based on older values; if it's in good condition with no corrosion, that's a fair price. Concourse examples can fetch £4k+ these days. Shocked


They ARE expensive. You say it's a fair price but it's way more than they are actually worth, it's what overweight, balding middle aged men with too much money to burn are prepared to pay to keep one sat in a garage for 51 weeks of the year in an attempt to relive their youth. You can buy a brand new motorbike for the price of a tidy round headlight C90. It's way too expensive for a learner/commuter bike when you could get something far more reliable, and effective for less money. They are priced as collectors items now.

If you want something modern and cool and relatively inexpensive, I'd suggest a Honda Grom. They are however, thief magnets.

You occasionally see a tidy CM125 or SR125 coming up at a reasonable price and they tend to have been better looked after because none of the "boy racer" brigade wants a bike with custom styling.

For example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224988251939?hash=item3462584723:g:lg4AAOSwa8pigXBa
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You occasionally see a tidy CM125 or SR125 coming up at a reasonable price and they tend to have been better looked after because none of the "boy racer" brigade wants a bike with custom styling.


In the case of the SR125, it may also be because no bugger wants to ride it. My brother had one as his learner bike, and I think it's the worst thing I've ever ridden. Every single aspect of the riding experience was vague. Brakes, gear change, feel from both ends, headlights, throttle response, all vague. You could feel the front wheel deflecting when you turned the bars because the forks were so spindly. Shocked On the other hand, it must be noted that the entire bike technically worked throughout his ownership, so it should get some credit for reliability.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
ThunderGuts wrote:
Remarks about them being expensive are based on older values; if it's in good condition with no corrosion, that's a fair price. Concourse examples can fetch £4k+ these days. Shocked


They ARE expensive. You say it's a fair price but it's way more than they are actually worth, it's what overweight, balding middle aged men with too much money to burn are prepared to pay to keep one sat in a garage for 51 weeks of the year in an attempt to relive their youth. You can buy a brand new motorbike for the price of a tidy round headlight C90. It's way too expensive for a learner/commuter bike when you could get something far more reliable, and effective for less money. They are priced as collectors items now.


The last bit is the relevant bit; mid-80s bog standard spec Ford Escorts sell for silly money; it's what people are prepared to pay for them. Expensive compared what they were worth 10 years ago, yes absolutely, expensive now in absolute terms? Much harder to quantify I think. Their value if anything is rising . . . perhaps this makes them better value? Question
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't go for an 80s bike. You want to be riding as much as possible and not faffing about fixing things that inevitably break on a 40 year old bike.

I'm going to disagree that YBR's are like hens teeth, there's plenty on ebay. The price is a bit steep considering I sold a really nice 2013 one for £900 in 2020 but I cant see the prices dropping much by the time OP passes a DAS and sells it.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 16 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
I wouldn't go for an 80s bike.


That, for a first bike, absolute newest, tidiest Japanese bike you can find within your budget.

Would not want to rely on older ones... you'll grow to hate it.
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