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SirFallalot Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 09:24 - 24 Jun 2022 Post subject: Quick luggage ideas for zx9r, I suddenly have a pillion... |
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Hey all,
After peg relocation I've kept my zx9r and used it for a couple of long trips satisfactorily.
I've got a 3250mi round trip to Faro (mostly camping) with a couple friends in two weeks, due to some personal circumstances, one rider dropped out, so I'm taking his pillion.
Usually the throw over panniers and tent/etc in the back seat is alright, but now I need something else.
I was going to buy a Ventura rack, but called them up and they said it takes up to 3 months to make it! (made to order...), there was one on ebay I bought, but it was wrongly labelled it's completely different. I see some that attach to the grab handle mounts but I've heard this is rather fragile, and expensive too.
If anyone's got some suggestions, or a rail I can buy/rent for two weeks, please
Alternatively I'm also looking at buying another bike for 1-2k with more comfort and luggage options (great excuse hey) and cheap insurance (sub $200) , VFR800/Sprint ST/X11 (yeah that's cheaper to insure than a 125) and some big bore nakeds seem to fit the bill, but I'd probs sell it afterwards as I actually wanted a second smaller bike, unless it was better than the zx9r...
I did try a Z1000SX, didn't really like it, and I don't have 6k available right now ____________________
Lexmoto Valiant 125; 94 CB400; 96 CB750F2; 81 CB750 (restoring, lol not gonna happen); 2001 ZX9R(It's about to go :c); 2012 R1200R; 2015 R1200RS |
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SirFallalot Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 11:51 - 24 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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She's gone on day/weekend trips with me before, at 55kg and short she said she likes it, but from that to 3k miles lies a big difference...
I might just just buy a cheap bike for the trip and be done with it...
Wish I had my CB750 back here right now maybe I should buy another one. ____________________
Lexmoto Valiant 125; 94 CB400; 96 CB750F2; 81 CB750 (restoring, lol not gonna happen); 2001 ZX9R(It's about to go :c); 2012 R1200R; 2015 R1200RS |
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P. Red Rocket
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Posted: 12:10 - 24 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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ZX9R and long range pillion shouldn't be too bad, but I'd much rather not
I used Gearsack luggage on my R1 and fitted under the seat and left plenty of room for a pillion, quite large side luggage. I'd potentially give them the rucksack or just fashion your own luggage mount which in turn could work as a light use back rest
I don't think its a superb bike choice though.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304512642794?hash=item46e65e2eea:g:sVwAAOSwI6NimRI3
Sell it for same when you return |
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Posted: 12:57 - 24 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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Yep ventura's the same, shame it takes so long to order, I was ready to cough up £120 for it (already have the top part, cheap from ebay)
I've ridden a Deauville, felt bike a comfy sofa, no bash but it doesn't vibe with me
Looking through ebay to see bike options, I'm considering VFR800 (late 90s to early 00s), Sprint ST (06-07) or any big ol' naked that makes a rumble.
I've always wanted to try a blackbird but that feels OTT where I'm going it's gonna be twisty asf and it's not that cheap to run
Last trip mate had a Tracer 700 and he was putting 20-30% less fuel than me everywhere except carriageways ____________________
Lexmoto Valiant 125; 94 CB400; 96 CB750F2; 81 CB750 (restoring, lol not gonna happen); 2001 ZX9R(It's about to go :c); 2012 R1200R; 2015 R1200RS |
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Posted: 14:09 - 24 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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Blackbirds han hold their own. Very useful bikes... wouldn't trust it tho.
Versys? You can be economical on any bike really but 2 up full luggage zx9 is expect the same as a Blackbird. |
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Posted: 12:41 - 26 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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I'm a big fan of using Renntec Sport Racks, soft panniers and a tankbag.
https://renntec.com/product/kawasaki-zx-9r-c-e-carrier-in-black/
Not sure what the lead time is, might be worth checking ebay and other outlets.
You'd be surprised how much stuff you can pile on it.
Using the above mentioned luggage, I've carried enough gear for me and the missus to go camping for a week.
She would have a backpack on, and if the bike was loaded correctly it would all act like she has a backrest.
Comfy times. |
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SirFallalot Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 16:48 - 26 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the help guys
It's defo gonna be one of these bikes me thinks, I'm looking through now and should have one by next weekend for any final preparations
How does the R1100rs compare to some of the inline 3/4? I suppose more laid back, chill, let's ride vibe? I figure I can set the pace on pretty much anything as my friends aren't maniacs.
Still interested in a rack regardless, CaNsA, I've read somewhere the racks that bolt where the grab handles are usually breaks the mount or something, I've not had a thorough look myself, maybe I didn't interpret it properly or I'm confusing with something else? ____________________
Lexmoto Valiant 125; 94 CB400; 96 CB750F2; 81 CB750 (restoring, lol not gonna happen); 2001 ZX9R(It's about to go :c); 2012 R1200R; 2015 R1200RS |
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Posted: 17:09 - 26 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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BRUN wrote: | could you really trust buying a 2nd hand bike for such a long journey, bit of an unknown at short notice
do Kriega make anything suitable for luggage ? me and the wife had their stuff for a week around Wales, my pannier ones though look like they would be too close to your exhaust on the zx9r, your pillion might have to rucksack a lot of it
rather than camp, to save on luggage needs, have you thought of booking some hotels along your route instead ?
i see their are racks which extend behind the pillion, you might get a 30L Kriega on one of those, maybe with some 10's either side ? |
Possibly, it's a bit of a wild bet
The soft panniers have just about enough clearance, and just about touch if extended and loaded, it doesn't get hot enough to burn though (on my previous bike it was the fumes rather than exhaust that made a burned hole as the tip pointed up)
https://i.postimg.cc/YhRHnKpC/PXL-20220527-103931805.jpg ____________________
Lexmoto Valiant 125; 94 CB400; 96 CB750F2; 81 CB750 (restoring, lol not gonna happen); 2001 ZX9R(It's about to go :c); 2012 R1200R; 2015 R1200RS |
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Posted: 23:08 - 26 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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If I were suddenly faced with a short notice trip in excess of 3000 miles, with a pillion and all that entails, I would probably buy this, or something very like it.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255577782452?hash=item3b819f78b4:g:N2oAAOSw-FRipLcZ
With your very specific requirements, I definitely wouldn't buy a dry clutch BMW, unless you have documented proof of a very recent replacement. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Posted: 20:01 - 27 Jun 2022 Post subject: |
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I've come down to 3 models, some of which I might actually keep. Rode a TDM, hated the damn thing. BB would be overkill and expensive to keep, no point. Weirdly there's some Sprint ST for 2k, interesting but afraid of hot seat as it'll be 35 C*. I always wanted a ZRX but overpriced. Anyways:
VFR800 5, <2k, cheap insurance, full luggage, cycle-ergo leads me to believe the position is comfy. Wouldn't keep as not ulez and too close but inferior to zx9r
Example 1
Example 2
There's some 6th gen VFRs too but all I hear is the 5th is better
Bandit 1250, ~2k, supposedly bulletproof trains, ulez, might keep
Lastly but not least, I was looking through the R1100R/RT/RS and found this damn beautiful thing and am considering pulling funds for it from elsewhere
R1200R, 4k (ouch), insurance same as zx, read it's more refined than bandit and a good tourer with the small screen. Better be damn good and I might just keep it, afraid of bmw ownership costs though. ____________________
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Just to reiterate, have you got experience of riding a dry clutch BM and has that had a new one (it's about the right mileage for needing it) ?
Also, when I asked a good friend of mine (25+ year veteran BMW tech) about buying a boxer, he said and I quote "If you absolutely have to have one, don't get anything newer than an 1150".
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