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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 31 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
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Boris is hardly steel tempered in the forge of battle; just like any politician these days: jelly conforming to whatever mould is en vogue Sad

I'm seriously wondering whether the whole universal suffrage / democracy project isn't just an elaborate socialist plot Thinking If you want to wrest control at any cost it's much easier if you dilute the electoral base with an extra 15 million idiots (Reform Act 1918.)

Total tin-foil hat stuff till you consider the replacement agenda going on in the US at the moment.


Oh the latest right wing conspiracy theory.


Thats not a tin foil job, the nutters believing that particular one need a full anechoic chamber to keep the signals out.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 31 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Boris is hardly steel tempered in the forge of battle; just like any politician these days: jelly conforming to whatever mould is en vogue Sad

I'm seriously wondering whether the whole universal suffrage / democracy project isn't just an elaborate socialist plot Thinking If you want to wrest control at any cost it's much easier if you dilute the electoral base with an extra 15 million idiots (Reform Act 1918.)

Total tin-foil hat stuff till you consider the replacement agenda going on in the US at the moment.


Oh the latest right wing conspiracy theory.

What part? I thought it was pretty much common knowledge Labour grew out of the increase in female and working class male voters, then later the importation of diversities.

As for the 'replacement agenda' just ask Joe Biden what he thinks... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtxiRhsETY
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 31 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Oh the latest right wing conspiracy theory.


Repeating Left Wing talking points is a Right Wing conspiracy?!
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 31 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Val wrote:
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A Russian dissident has called the EU “muppets” and Boris “a warrior” for his support to Ukraine.


Boris is like Churchill now. That is if Churchill has spent the 1930s partying with nazis, on the evening of war was doing party funding event with the said nazis, has given all the nazis 30 days to hide their money before freezing it,

That sounds more like what the EU are doing. “Yes, rogue state, we’ll rely totally on you to provision us,” and then in May, “We’ll stop buying your oil and gas (not really) by the end of the year, so grrr!” Silly sods.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 03 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
if you think relying on Russia is bad, what do you imagine the consequences of upsetting China will be.
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
The master plan is revealed...

Ukraine war: Hungry Africans are victims of the conflict, Macky Sall [head of African Union] tells Vladimir Putin

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Some analysts argue the Kremlin is hoping that a looming food crisis will put political pressure on the West by provoking big new refugee flows towards Europe from food-insecure countries in the Middle East and Africa.


Previously Belarus had welcomed refugees and ushered them (at gunpoint) towards Poland and the Baltic countries so there's previous form here.

No need for nukes, just destabilise world-wide food security and let the refugees swamp Europe. Job done Sad
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
That view of international politics played like a giant chess game is risible. The players are not that clever and the world is too complex.

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PostPosted: 12:04 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
That view of international politics played like a giant chess game is risible. The players are not that clever and the world is too complex.


https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81467124?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=en&clip=81604199

You called....
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I could watch it I expect that would be risible too. Rich people and their brokers legally though immorally evading tax? Rich people are bad. I get it.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:

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Some analysts argue the Kremlin is hoping that a looming food crisis will put political pressure on the West by provoking big new refugee flows towards Europe from food-insecure countries in the Middle East and Africa.


Previously Belarus had welcomed refugees and ushered them (at gunpoint) towards Poland and the Baltic countries so there's previous form here.

No need for nukes, just destabilise world-wide food security and let the refugees swamp Europe. Job done Sad

I find it fascinating how other countries see these waves of illegal immigrants (they are neither refugees or migrants) as something detrimental to us that can be weaponised, yet we're told they're just seeking a better lyfe and will enrich ours...

Afghan man suspected of raping and killing girl, 13, in Austria arrested in UK - 'Rasuili Zubaidullah entered the UK on a boat of refugees and claimed asylum using a fake name'

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
That view of international politics played like a giant chess game is risible. The players are not that clever and the world is too complex.


https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81467124?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=en&clip=81604199

You called....

YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8&vl=en
I watched it a while ago, the main thing they glossed over is that Britain didn't want to be financially responsible for overseas colonies post-WW2 being bankrupt and what not, which lead to them becoming tax havens.

It's goes a bit...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7K9iUtUUAIUjB3.jpg
...in trying to construct a narrative (which a lot of these types of docu's do), rather than just presenting interesting information and letting people make up their own mind.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
I find it fascinating how other countries see these waves of illegal immigrants (they are neither refugees or migrants) as something detrimental to us that can be weaponised, yet we're told they're just seeking a better lyfe and will enrich ours.


Champions League Final: Harrowing accounts of post-match violence spark debate.

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The post-match violence threatens to be an issue in parliamentary elections that will be held in two rounds from next weekend - with conservative and far-right opponents of President Macron spotting a massive opportunity.

For them, the real story was less the failures of organization (though these undoubtedly existed) and certainly not hooliganism by Liverpudlians (of which there was next to no evidence) - but rather the eruption of more thuggery from the run-down high-immigration areas around Saint-Denis.

More outrageous yet was the government's clear reluctance to call this out, for fear (according to critics) of alienating centre-left opinion by "stigmatising" the people of the Paris suburbs.

Little wonder that far-right leader Marine Le Pen is using the fiasco to galvanise her electorate ahead of the parliamentary vote.

"France has offered up a spectacle of what it is becoming," she tweeted. "A zone of general lawlessness."

It sounds like the motivation was robbery, it wasn’t old-fashioned soccer violence.

In the video a Liverpool supporter points out that France are hosting the Olympics in two years…
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
I noticed fans seemed to be fighting with 'local youths'.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 04 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:

I find it fascinating how other countries see these waves of illegal immigrants (they are neither refugees or migrants) as something detrimental to us that can be weaponised, yet we're told they're just seeking a better lyfe and will enrich ours...



what are you talking about, diversity is our greatest strength.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 15 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why is it when they come North from Africa, they all turn left to France/UK and not right towards Russia?

From the comments I've seen from my Facebook feeds, most people in African countries support Russia (i.e. anti-West) in the conflict.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 27 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not particularly surprising:

Where is Russia taking Ukraine's stolen grain?

It feeds into the image of Russia as less of a country and more a criminal enterprise. What would the Sicilian Mafia have done with nuclear weapons? Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 27 Jun 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
Why is it when they come North from Africa, they all turn left to France/UK and not right towards Russia?

From the comments I've seen from my Facebook feeds, most people in African countries support Russia (i.e. anti-West) in the conflict.


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