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Posted: 14:34 - 26 Jun 2022 Post subject: Expect your Deliveroo to arrive cold |
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Cycling: TfL to begin issuing fines to drivers in cycle lanes
Personally I try and avoid drifting into cycle lanes. Not because of my overwhelming respect for cyclists (not that there are any outside of rush hour) but because the scooter bois are busy zipping up the inside of traffic ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Car lanes?
Wtf are you talking about? |
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The essence of man is, arguably, to expand into spaces. However, most of those spaces in the world as we know it are already under someone's dominion. Hydro-dam projects are often sort of national vanity projects - a habit leftover from Soviet times. Iran, for example, built 650 dams in 40 years (it still has water shortages lol). Lots of countries build dams for similar reasons. They'll say it's for the environment or for energy or for commerce, but the only thing they have in common is that they're a huge investment. In Britain there are new rivers, canals and weirs, which are our equivalent. Along dams, you get mountain goats. Along the weirs, you get butterflies, maybe a couple of otters or beavers, if you're lucky. The goats, butterflies, otters and beavers think it's natural, but it isn't natural. It's more like the ability of natural organisms to adapt has been exploited by man. Add to this, cycle paths. People will adapt. However, the essence of man (to expand into spaces) becomes a source of constraint leading to conflict, just as there is conflict in nature. There's something disturbing about this conflict itself being centrally planned. Is man nothing more than a resource for other men? Or part of an ecosystem to be managed for no apparent reason? What about man's innate will and desire to expand into spaces?
This is where a lot of things come to a head. From motorcycles (in the old days), to wilderness camping, to cyclists who run red lights. |
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Bhud wrote: | The essence of man is, arguably, to expand into spaces. However, most of those spaces in the world as we know it are already under someone's dominion. Hydro-dam projects are often sort of national vanity projects - a habit leftover from Soviet times. Iran, for example, built 650 dams in 40 years (it still has water shortages lol). Lots of countries build dams for similar reasons. They'll say it's for the environment or for energy or for commerce, but the only thing they have in common is that they're a huge investment. In Britain there are new rivers, canals and weirs, which are our equivalent. Along dams, you get mountain goats. Along the weirs, you get butterflies, maybe a couple of otters or beavers, if you're lucky. The goats, butterflies, otters and beavers think it's natural, but it isn't natural. It's more like the ability of natural organisms to adapt has been exploited by man. Add to this, cycle paths. People will adapt. However, the essence of man (to expand into spaces) becomes a source of constraint leading to conflict, just as there is conflict in nature. There's something disturbing about this conflict itself being centrally planned. Is man nothing more than a resource for other men? Or part of an ecosystem to be managed for no apparent reason? What about man's innate will and desire to expand into spaces?
This is where a lot of things come to a head. From motorcycles (in the old days), to wilderness camping, to cyclists who run red lights. |
Mate I came here to talk shit about cyclists, not to engage fucking Aristotle in debate ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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I would estimate significantly less than half of cyclists are actually causing any problems, it's just the ones who act like total knobheads stick in your memory, the ones that obey you forget about a few seconds after passing them.
In terms of cycle infrastructure, well that's a whole other area. I cycle a lot (commuting, not so much for pleasure these days) and the issue is an awful lot of cycle infrastructure just isn't fit for purpose, despite how many millions the local authorities are throwing at it (incompetent road designers are partly to blame, but also woefully poor national design standards which guide them). I will generally use cycle infrastructure where it works, but if it's going to be less safe for me to use (ironically) then I will merge with the traffic. In my case, I am hoofing along at a similar pace to the rest of traffic so I don't cause any issues anyway (and signal my intentions clearly, don't wear earphones, obey the rules of the road etc..). I can think of plenty of examples of cycle lanes that abruptly turn into a side road before crossing over, or randomly end forcing you to rejoin traffic at 90 degrees, all of which actually introduce hazards. Meanwhile they're covered in broken glass because they don't get swept as often (if at all), leaves, standing water, errant pedestrians (headphones in, naturally) etc.. It might be a better fit for a "casual" (or nervous) cyclist on a sit-up-and-beg with a basket on the front who ambles along at 8mph and is terrified of traffic (loads of generalisations there, sorry about that), but for anyone even remotely interested at actually cycling any distance (which usually equates to going faster too) most infrastructure is hopeless.
No idea what the infrastructure in the capital is like these days, maybe it's different, but around here anything segregated is almost without exception utterly useless.
Edit: going to chime in with this last observation; food delivery peeps on bicycles are the biggest single two-wheeled problem in Manchester. They are almost constantly glued to their 'phone as they cycle along (presumably getting order info, or navigating), rarely have lights, dress in dark clothes, ignore traffic signals, weave around and behave totally unpredictably. If only my bike had James Bond style accessories I would have a ball . . . ____________________ TG. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 243 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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