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PostPosted: 17:29 - 09 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Putin is talking to Erdoğan (although I suspect Turkey has only opportunistically placed itself as a neutral party) even there the message is "pull out of Ukraine." Putin might mutter about the big red button but he'll be on his own. No one will have an appetite for it in Russia and certainly not China, his closest "ally" in relative terms. Cuba, Venezuela? Who gives a fuck.

Really though it all comes down to the most closely guarded secret of the last one hundred years: Russia's shit in wars. The Battle of Stalingrad? The Germans lost due to logistics not 'cos of any amazing bravery or tactics of the Soviets. Afghanistan? Nope. Chechnya? Lots of mercenaries.

Could someone cite a war were the Russians have done really well since... I dunno, the revolution? That's over a century, should be easy surely? Smile


Does any country do really well in wars? Isn't that one of the best ctricisms of war, it basically is zero sum, even if you win your bankrupt and exhausted and then lumbered with the territory you gain.

There's probably a good few PhDs in "whats the problem with Russia" but is the west much better, Vietnam, Iraq, The Arab spring? Not to mention 'muricas war on drugs.
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 10 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Admittedly there's a lot of "won the war but lost the peace" e.g. Iraq, plenty of ineptitude from the Americans, e.g. Bay of Pigs, but at least we managed the Falklands pretty well.
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