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Posted: 18:35 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: Stolen bike recovered, engine knocking noise + low oil level |
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So, my friends Zontes Panther 125 got stolen, it got recovered by the police (and he had to pay £170 to get it back!?).
We looked over the bike and the issues were: ignition barrel gone, key hole in petrol cap had been rammed through with a screw driver, throttle cable snapped (now replaced) and the engine was really low on oil (now topped up).
He started it when he got it back home by bodging some wires and using the kick start. It started after a few kicks (but bumps first time) and there was a knocking noise from the top end of the engine.
Checked the engine oil level, it was extremely low, the little 125 took 500ml of oil to get the oil level to minimum on the sight glass, I believe its oil capacity is around 1L. The bike was in the thieves hands for roughly 1 week. The bike had no running issues before it was stolen.
So, even with the engine topped up with oil it still makes this knocking noise, so assuming it's permanent damage is it time to replace the engine?
TL:DR We believe the bike was ragged around with low oil level (the oil level was fine before it was stolen but for some reason the bike's lost oil), knocking noise from the top end of the engine.
What could the damage be?
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Posted: 18:44 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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It is chinese, therefore likely scrap now.
You could have disputed paying the money, but he has been analised already now... so forget that |
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Posted: 19:21 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Meh I'd ride it till it became a problem, not like the bike is worth much ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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Posted: 20:07 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Bike, dunno.
The charge is bogus. They can charge the person who left the bike in the place from where it was recovered, i.e. the thief, not your chum.
If I think there's a real chance that he will invoice and sue the local Plod to recover the money that they have extorted from him, I'll take the time to cite the law. Surprise me. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 20:29 - 15 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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He was insured for third party only |
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Posted: 02:40 - 16 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Tell the fuckers you've already paid for the recovery in your council tax ffs I don't often say it but what is this country coming to when victims have to pay to retrieve their property??
Maybe they should use the proceeds of crime to pay for it ____________________ The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train!
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Posted: 10:10 - 16 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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I've already told you that it's a bogus charge. He's not responsible for paying it. Just because everyone involved in the racket says it's so doesn't make it so.
Knowing full well that I'm wasting my time, I would draw your attention to Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 S102.
Recovery is from "any person responsible".
"person responsible", in relation to a vehicle, means—
(a) the owner of the vehicle at the time when it was put in the place from which it was removed as mentioned in subsection (1) above, unless he shows that he was not concerned in, and did not know of, its being put there;
(b) any person by whom the vehicle was put in that place;
Perhaps that's been amended. That would be a case for the person who blackmailed your chum to make. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 18:52 - 16 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Rogerborg wrote: | craisin wrote: | We put it in my mates car and hoped no oil would run out you can guess why it didnt |
I can barely guess what you're saying.
Oil can get out through the filler, the crankcase breather, or by seeping past the cylinder rings.
The breather is the only likely route unless the rings are mangled or it's left on its side for more than the hours that I've had bikes lying down for. But unless you've got some weird breather offset on the side that it's lying on, I find it unlikely that you'd lose a significant amount of oil through it. |
If left on it's side for a while, apparently oil can drain from the sump into the cylinder. Most 4 stroke lawnmowers have stickers on telling you not to leave them on their side or upside down for long periods of time, for this reason.
Don't know it it gets past the rings or enters via the valves, but it can happen. I can't see how ragging any bike for a week could have lost more than half it's engine oil. It's a Chinese 125, it'll be ragged all day long anyway just to keep up with traffic! ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I'm sure he's trying to communicate, and it's almost as though I can understand him. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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