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Have Liz and Kwazi lost it completely?
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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact I’m being seduced by the ‘Guido Fawkes’ conservative blog. Shocked

What’s a good left-wing blog to add balance?
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
In fact I’m being seduced by the ‘Guido Fawkes’ conservative blog. Shocked

What’s a good left-wing blog to add balance?


I've not a clue about left wing blogs. Do they exist?
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

‘Wings Over Scotland’ can be interesting, an independence-supporting blog which doesn’t seem to like the SNP. I can’t tell if it counts as left or right though, which is probably a good thing. I have no links to Scotland beyond being in the UK.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
In fact I’m being seduced by the ‘Guido Fawkes’ conservative blog. Shocked

What’s a good left-wing blog to add balance?


https://bylinetimes.com/

But the funniest articles I have ever read are by
Marina Hyde

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/marinahyde

I mean seriously read few Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
‘Wings Over Scotland’ can be interesting, an independence-supporting blog which doesn’t seem to like the SNP. I can’t tell if it counts as left or right though, which is probably a good thing. I have no links to Scotland beyond being in the UK.


The SNP hate them because they're more what the indy voters are really about.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 21 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "good" politician would talk so much sense you wouldn't care what party they were from. I expect Tony Benn would count as Right-Wing these days Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 22 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:

I have to say I have some friends in Scotland and you are the first one that really wants to be subordinate to Westminster. Laughing
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Lord Frost said Wales and Scotland are not nations writing in the Telegraph, he said that the devolved governments were “subordinate” to Westminster


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PostPosted: 15:18 - 22 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Val wrote:

I have to say I have some friends in Scotland and you are the first one that really wants to be subordinate to Westminster. Laughing
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Lord Frost said Wales and Scotland are not nations writing in the Telegraph, he said that the devolved governments were “subordinate” to Westminster


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You must have massive balls to post on a Internet forum, do they get bigger when you post here? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 22 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I know you are but what am I?" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 26 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's Richi "I have friends in the aristocracy, Upper Class friends, Working Class friends..... well not Working Class friends hahahahahaaha"

Mind you, I don't expect to see Sir Kier or Sir Ed queueing up at the food bank soon.

Bitter experience shows it doesn't matter if you vote Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, whoever. When all boils down they've all got their snouts in the trough.

At least with Tories you know what you're going to get.

Next election I think I'll vote Tory, purely because Labour will get in by a landslide and at least I have justification to moan for the next five years.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 26 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a policy of filling the cabinet with experienced statsemen and doing nothing outrageous, innovative or out of the ordinary is probably the correct thing here. Create stability and hope stability will follow. Act only after consideration, stick to your principals and move with consensus.

Changing government now, especially for an unstable and equally fractured Labour party with no clear idea about what they are going to do and no experience of government would be a very dangerous thing in such a period of geopolitical and fiscal instability. They only have ideas about what they want to happen, not about how they are going to achieve it.

Radical change is not what we need right now. Calming things down and working steadily towards long term goals is what is needed. The financial markets seem to agree.

Go down the Winchester and wait for it to blow over.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 26 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
So it's Richi "I have friends in the aristocracy, Upper Class friends, Working Class friends..... well not Working Class friends hahahahahaaha"

Mind you, I don't expect to see Sir Kier or Sir Ed queueing up at the food bank soon.

Bitter experience shows it doesn't matter if you vote Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, whoever. When all boils down they've all got their snouts in the trough.



I don't disagree on how loathsome politicians are but their parties do have different policies and ways of implementing them so that's what you vote for rather than personality.

I think a big part of Sunakernomics will be how can he make the lower classes (IE PAYE tax liables) pay for all the borrowing during the pandemic. You can be sure the very rich and his corporate WEF interests wont be expected to contribute. The middle class average wage and above will pay in cash terms and the lower paid in poorer public services. Sad times ahead.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 27 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't disagree, but I think that in practice ordinary people (Sunak take note) tend to vote based on the charisma of the leader. Boris was seen as a bumbling womanizer but ingratiated himself to the public. New Labour started in 1994 and prospered based on the popularity of Blair.

I used to think that if there was a leader who I could identify with (i.e. didn't own zillions in property, hedge funds, etc.) I'd vote for them.

My logic was ultimately flawed when I realised that leader was Corbyn.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 27 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
I don't disagree, but I think that in practice ordinary people (Sunak take note) tend to vote based on the charisma of the leader. Boris was seen as a bumbling womanizer but ingratiated himself to the public. New Labour started in 1994 and prospered based on the popularity of Blair.

I used to think that if there was a leader who I could identify with (i.e. didn't own zillions in property, hedge funds, etc.) I'd vote for them.

My logic was ultimately flawed when I realised that leader was Corbyn.


Corbyn did bring me back to Labour actually. He was the first large party leader who seemed to speak to someone in my situation. I think if he had ditched the distraction of Palastinian issues and had unequivocally supported the result of the European refferendum he could have won an election.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 27 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
bhinso wrote:
I don't disagree, but I think that in practice ordinary people (Sunak take note) tend to vote based on the charisma of the leader. Boris was seen as a bumbling womanizer but ingratiated himself to the public. New Labour started in 1994 and prospered based on the popularity of Blair.

I used to think that if there was a leader who I could identify with (i.e. didn't own zillions in property, hedge funds, etc.) I'd vote for them.

My logic was ultimately flawed when I realised that leader was Corbyn.


Corbyn did bring me back to Labour actually. He was the first large party leader who seemed to speak to someone in my situation. I think if he had ditched the distraction of Palastinian issues and had unequivocally supported the result of the European refferendum he could have won an election.


I don't. He had too much baggage with my generation. He could have been the most savvy potential PM going nd still wouldn't have got the older vote.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 27 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corbyn would have emptied the treasury within 12 months on pie in the sky renationalisation schemes then spent the next three years blaming the Tories while the pound tanked... And the trains still wouldn't run on time.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 28 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The IRA thing did it for me.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 28 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? When John major's government started talking to them?
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