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bacon
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 10 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always used Parafin to clean my chains, I apply with a brush and rotate the wheel applying to the chain as I go.

Then I hold a rag over the chain and rotate the wheel, ensuring all of the chain is "wiped clean", then simply let it dry for a short while
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Then apply your oil of choice, gear oil usually, but have used engine oil no bother. It's messy with the fling, but who cares, my chains never rust and are kept in great condition.

Never knowingly experienced a bulging seal like this.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 30 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've got a new chain on order as a combination of a "Black Friday" sale and a discount code means I've got a genuine DID X-ring chain for £50. Nice.

Now; the question is do I change the sprockets too? Conventional wisdom is yes, but to get a cushioned front sprocket means a Honda OEM part and they're £60!! Add in a JT rear and we're circa £90 all in. Given the chain that's on isn't "worn", it's "failed", so I slap a new chain on it with the existing sprockets? Total mileage on the bike is about 10k. Edit: this is all subject to the drive sprocket looking in good condition of course (faff to get the cover off, but I will). The rear looks in excellent shape.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 30 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just fit the chain if the sprockets are reasonably new.

You can buy pattern front sprockets with dampers on now. I think JT do them.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 30 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I would just fit the chain if the sprockets are reasonably new.

You can buy pattern front sprockets with dampers on now. I think JT do them.


They are listed on the JT website but finding them seems to be a whole other challenge! I might message JT if the one on the bike looks worn as they've been quite helpful when I was sourcing stuff for my ER5 a few years ago.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 01 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are listed on the JT website but finding them seems to be a whole other challenge!


Iused than on a few bikes my Wholesaler Lasson UK stocked them so I guess any of their dealers can supply I'm happy to help I in south London but a sprocket would not be cheap to post!
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 01 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

davebike wrote:
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They are listed on the JT website but finding them seems to be a whole other challenge!


Iused than on a few bikes my Wholesaler Lasson UK stocked them so I guess any of their dealers can supply I'm happy to help I in south London but a sprocket would not be cheap to post!


Cheers Dave, yeah I've used you for bits for my C90 before as you were recommended through the C90 forums but it never really occurred to me you deal with bigger Hondas Laughing I will see what state the existing one is in and if it's in need of replacement, I'll drop you an email. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 01 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I / we do most bikes sadly few C90 these days!

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PostPosted: 08:55 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

So an update on this; removed the old chain (since I last did a chain my Aldi-Dremel has packed up . . . wtf do they make chain rivets out of?! They were blunting my drill bits! Ended up filing off the rivets and pressing off the plate manually). Pain in the backside getting to the front sprocket, had to remove the clutch slave cylinder as that's integral to the sprocket cover, plus disconnect the gear lever. Sprocket wasn't showing any wear (unsurprising given the limited use) so just whizzed a new chain on (side note; having struggled with a cheap chain riveting tool years ago, I bought a proper DID chain tool before the previous chain change and it's just such a joy to use, quick and effective). I've vowed to stick with gear oil on this chain (painted on with a brush then wiped) and see how it goes, plus using gear oil on a cloth to clean it too as opposed to using paraffin. So far so good, looks sparkly clean and isn't attracting dirt. Lots of nay-sayers I know who are saying what a mistake gear oil is and it'll go everywhere, but so far that's not been the case (I'd imagine if I didn't wipe the chain down afterwards the fling would be horrendous).
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