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Posted: 08:01 - 06 Dec 2022 Post subject: 125 Scooters |
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Hi there.
Just saying hello and asking for a little advise.
Been riding for a few years, but I've always owned bigger engined bikes.
I'm thinking of getting a little 125 twist and go scooter as a fun commute to work. It's only about 10 miles and it'd be a fair weather/summer vehicle.
Don't fancy buying something new, as it would probably get nicked while I'm working, so was interested in something cheap and cheerful.
My main concern is, at what mileage would you guys consider a 125 scooter to be knackered?
I know it depends on how it's been treated and if it's been thrashed within an inch of it's life, but at what point does a little motor like that need a rebuild?
Any other insights into buying a small scooter are most welcome.
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Posted: 09:22 - 06 Dec 2022 Post subject: |
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Depends a bit on the scooter too and the age; some of the slightly older Jap stuff was still made in Japan, newer stuff is made all over the place. As you say, the life it's had and the servicing is probably the biggest factor. The problem is 125 scooters tend to be owned by a succession of inexperienced "don't care" youths who will thrash it from cold, never check the oil and generally abuse it before passing it to the next person for the same treatment. With those, I'd probably expect 20k miles and they'll be getting tired (generally too, not just the engine), perhaps even less. However, get something owned by some bloke who uses it to get the newspaper on a Sunday morning and has owned it for 10 years or something, and a similar mileage and it might be in excellent condition with loads of life left.
Other option is to get something less used by the CBT-bike-bashers, e.g. a Honda Wave with it's C90 style heel/toe gear change and semi-auto setup. I imagine these, because of their quirkiness, are far less likely to have the stereotypical 125 owner profile and will be a bit more "bike like" to ride too as you've got an engine mounted in the frame and some gears to play with. Probably less of a moped-crim target too as if they're using the scooters for crimes, you've got to mess about with gear changing (as opposed to twist-n-go which I imagine are better suited for the average scum). ____________________ TG. |
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Hate to say it but you'd be better off with a 125 thrashed by a kid for a year while they wait for a car. Everything else will have been thrashed by Deliveroo dickheads ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I had a Yamaha Riva 125 for a short time. That bike performed surprisingly well. It would get up to 60 easily. Occasionally you find them for sale at very reasonable price. Found this one on the second click. Needs work, not from being abused, but mainly from the neglect of sitting idle for 30 years. Really not a bad looking scooter.
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I've only ever ridden a scooter once (and it was a 125), and I hated it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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My ride on a scooter was funny. Kept grabbing for the clutch, which made things interesting
But horrible, wobbly thing, like riding a child's toy. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I'd never owned a scooter before and was asked if I'll get another bike and
that was hard to answer because I dont like what I can afford and cant afford what I'd like.
I'm not going into debt for some cool/sexy/sporty/real biker bullshit
I've done my time on 'real bikes' and too old to care anyway.
I don't do the big rides and rallies anymore so for a comfy, light biddable hack
this 250 Majesty ticks all the boxes and I actually enjoy riding it !
Its fun!
It's so easy and relaxing to ride in a city, no constant clutch grabs and slipping,
no tap dancing on the gear change, just twist and go
It'll do about 80-85 flat out and cruise at an easy 60 all day long and I estimate the mpg to be around 80 ish so not as frugal as a 125 but much comfier and enjoyable.
It has a shit ton of storage under the seat and I added some of my own gadgets like 12v and USB power sockets in the front pocket, the back rest is nice when cruising on say dual a carriageway
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Posted: 23:32 - 08 Dec 2022 Post subject: |
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Mileage isn't the be all and end all when looking at a 2nd hand machine. I'd be more interested in general condition - has it been abused to within an inch of it's life, or is there evidence of actual servicing etc?
Don't go near anything Chinese, even if the seller offers to pay you to take it away. I would not entertain anything 2-stroke either, as these will inevitably have been thrashed mercilessly, modified appallingly with 'race' parts and repeatedly thrown up the road by a whole generation of teenage scrotes.
For the sort of usage you're proposing I'd be looking at the Honda SH125 or the Wave/Innova (yes, I know the latter aren't scooters...). These are generally favoured by the more mature rider, so you've more chance of getting something that's had an easier life and actually been serviced once in a while. Buy a decent lock and chain, though, as scum will try and steal it.
I've had an older (pre-FI) Innova and it was pretty nippy for something with only 110cc at its disposal. It handles decently on its big wheels, and has better brakes and lights than the old Cub. It's only good for about 55mph but it gets there fairly quickly, and it's great for picking your way through city traffic. If I was in a position where I needed to commute to work again I'd have another one in a flash. |
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