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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
yep, you seem to be missing a couple of bits.

1) is the regulator and 2) is the starter resistor.


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PostPosted: 11:46 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Nobby the Bastard"]Right.

So, the power going to the battery has knackered it.

if there was no regulator how is the power getting to the battery?

Has someone just taped the wires out of the stator to the wires to the battery where the regulator is supposed to be?[/quote

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I honestly don't know. The wiring is a mess.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do you really think this is how Peugeot designed this?

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PostPosted: 11:53 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
yep, you seem to be missing a couple of bits.

1) is the regulator and 2) is the starter resistor.


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It's just confusing because I've had this bike for over 1 year with no issues, I used too do like 40miles on it sometimes.

It's only become an issue since it was hot wired and driven around the carpark.

After that, wiring was reattached and new ignition barrell.

How has it lasted so long without the parts
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Do you really think this is how Peugeot designed this?

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No, but I got it 2nd hand with full history etc and I've never had a reason too look under the panels, until it was stolen.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would it work for as while like that?

I've got absolutely no idea because I'd never be stupid enough to throw unregulated AC at a battery toi find out!
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Would it work for as while like that?

I've got absolutely no idea because I'd never be stupid enough to throw unregulated AC at a battery toi find out!


Yes, it worked around a year with no issues. Used too run fine, it's only been an issue since wires were connected again after the hotwire.

It's hard too find anything that helps online with original wire setup. So I'm not sure if they connected a wire in wrong place or even if regulator has been moved years ago too somewhere else.

It's all just confusing and annoying, because I use it for work.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let's get the bad news out of the way, best find something to bite down on...

Unless you really want to get into bike electrics and wiring diagrams I don't think there's an easy fix here. Someone really needs to analyse what's happened to this scooter both as it was and after the hotwiring. Translation: garage + money, probably lots of it Sad
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Probably easier to buy a second hand loom and the other missing stuff than try and fix that.

Bend over darling, it's going to sting a bit.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
I understand, I'm doing driving lessons early next year, so only needed it too last until then.

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Is it normal for two wires on each?
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Depends. Does it have aftermarket heated grips?
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
No heated grips.

I think I'm getting somewhere...

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One of the photos is the connector round in carpark after stolen. The other image is how it's connected now.

Black wire in wrong place and green wire not looped...

Also, no idea what these are near battery
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Switched the black wire and starts straight away. I'll keep checking it and see if it continues too start.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm. I suspect someone at some point isolated an immobiliser, quite possibly to hotwire it.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 16 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Hmm. I suspect someone at some point isolated an immobiliser, quite possibly to hotwire it.


Can't get key in tonight too try it, because it's frozen. So I'll try tomorrow and see if it's still running.

The connector block that they cut off, it's got a green wire that loops, do you think that could be part of the grounding?

Sorry if it's stupid question, I didn't even know it was a think until today.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 17 Dec 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
So it's still starting, does struggle a bit sometimes, but still starts.

I'm going too get them wires put in connector block and also the green loop added back on.

The other day the battery was draining with engine running, but now it is charging while engine is running.

Thanks for all the help, I'll let you know if anything changes again.
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