Honda HISS programming

[Noddy2]

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Hi All

 

I've just bought a VFR1200F DCT and it only came with one key.  I'm in the UK so bike has HISS installed.  I've just tried to program another key following this video:
https://youtu.be/YXHNGZXJVK8

 

When I connect the crank position sensor to the 12V supply and turn on the ignition, the fuel pump is not supposed to prime and the HISS light should stay ON.  When I turn the ignition on, the fuel pump does not prime but the HISS light stays OFF.  Under normal operation, the HISS light comes on for 2 seconds and goes off when I turn on the ignition.

 

So my bike is doing something that all the other HISS enabled bikes don't.  Could it have been reflashed?

 

Any ideas or suggestions as to how I can get another key programmed would be great.

 

Thanks

 

John

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[stinkwheel]

Video is in foreign so absolutely no idea what he is saying. I have registered HISS keys on different models of Honda but not your model.

So just to check you are following this procedcure?

1) Connect your special tool to the crank position sensor wiring connector.

2) Connect the tool to the battery terminals.

3) Turn the ignition ON with the original key, keeping the new key well away from the bike. HISS light should come on and stay on.

4) Disconnect special tool from battery positive for 5 seconds then reconnect. HISS light should come on for 2 seconds then start repeatedly flashing 4 times. All previously registered keys are now wiped other than the one that's in it. Bike is in registration mode.

5) Turn off ignition. Remove original key and move it away from the bike.

6) Insert new key, turn on. HISS light should come on for 4 seconds then start repeatedly flashing 4 times. Key is now registered. Repeat with any additional keys.

7) Ignition off, remove tool, reconnect connector and test new key works.

I didn't see what he was doing when making his tool. Did he fit a resistor in the potitive lead? When I have done this on other models, it required a 100R resistor in the positive lead.
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[WD Forte]

Why pick a Russian language vid?
This one's in English with the guy doing it on a VFR800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db0ee6u7CjQ

Note he connects the ghetto lead with inline 100R resistor to the connector going to the ECU NOT the CPS

Maybe you do have a 1200 VFR, but as Honda uses basically
the same PGM-FI for nearly all its PGM-FI models which can all be
quizzed the same way,
why would they create a unique HISS system for one model?

Check your new key has a blank ID46 IC in it too
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[ThatDippyTwat]

[WD Forte]

I dont think its using the bikes PGM-FI ECU diagnostic connector
(for OBD stuff ) that would use at least 3 pins.
I reckon the ghetto lead just holds the CPS line high
at power on which triggers the HISS key process.
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[ThatDippyTwat]

[WD Forte]

[Noddy2]

Thanks for all the responses.

The Russian video can be auto translated - turn on the captions then select English. The 12V goes to the YELLOW wire and the ground to YELLOW/WHITE. You can see that when he connects the lead to the 12V and turns of the ignition, the HISS light stays ON just like in the description that stinkwheel provided. My HISS light stays OFF. However the fuel pump does not prime and the check engine lights up indicating that the ECU knows somethings not right. If I plug the crank sensor back in, the HISS light stays on for two seconds and then goes off when I turn the ignition on and the fuel pump primes.

Almost all Hondas HISS keys from 2008 to about 2012 are programmed and behave in the same way.

I don't know why my bike is different - it's a 2010 and the Russian has a 2012 so it's not because it's a later version. It's nothing to do with new keys as I haven't got as far as trying to program a new one. I suspect that it is because it has a had a reflash but I don't know anything about reflashes and whether they affect things like the HISS programming.

I'm asking if anyone else has seen this behaviour. I can go to a Honda dealer and ask for the ECU to be put back to stock but who knows what problems that might open up. My other option is to take it to an automotive locksmith and see if I can get the key copied.

Thanks

John

[stinkwheel]