Licence entitlement

[Tony Norton]

Hi All,

having done my CBT, passed the Theory Test, A1 Mod 1 and A1 Mod 2, I now have a full A1 licence.

Interrogating, on the DVSA site, what categories I am entitled to drive, when I click on "Restrictions apply" I get the following: -

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Vehicles you can provisionally drive (My bold italics)

Category : A
Start date: 16 Sep 1975
End date: 8 Apr 2026
Restrictions apply
Image of category A vehicle

Description

You can drive a motorcycle of a power exceeding 35kW or with a power to weight ratio exceeding 0.2kW per kg, or A motorcycle of a power not exceeding 35kW with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 0.2kW per kg and derived from a vehicle of more than double its power. A motor tricycle with a power exceeding 15kW
Restriction codes

01 Eyesight Correction
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I take that to mean that I can ride an A2 or A bike with "L" plates, provided I am wearing the appropriate eyesight correction.

It says nothing about having to be accompanied by an instructor with whom I am in radio communication. Where exactly is this condition stated. I am only interested in statements made on government websites, or in government publications. Statements made by training schools carry no weight as far as I am concerned.

Tony Norton

[Freddyfruitba...]

Um... didn't we do this one to death a couple of years ago?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4773206
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[Ste]

"I now have a full A1 licence."

"I take that to mean that I can ride an A2 or A bike with "L" plates"

Why would you think that having an A1 license allows you to ride an A or A2 bike on your own?

You need a full license to ride an A2 or A bike on your own.

"I am only interested in statements made on government websites, or in government publications. Statements made by training schools carry no weight as far as I am concerned."

Stop being dumb. If you can't understand that your A1 license only allows you to ride A1 bikes then maybe motorcycling isn't something for you.

[Pete.]

Yep it says exactly what it said back then, in the regulations:

[MCN]

You could get a car licence and drive cars and vans.

I hope that helps.
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Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN.

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Tony Norton]

Pete,

you gave me the following quote: -


(7) The holder of a provisional licence authorising the driving of a motor bicycle other than a learner motor bicycle shall not drive such a vehicle otherwise than under the supervision of a certified direct access instructor (within the meaning of regulation 64(2)) who is—

(a)present with him on the road while riding another motor bicycle,
(b)able to communicate with him by means of a radio which is not hand-held while in operation,
(c)supervising only that person or only that person and another person who holds such a provisional licence, and
(d)carrying a valid certificate issued in respect of him by the Secretary of State under regulation 65(4),
while he and the instructor are wearing apparel which is fluorescent or (during hours of darkness) is either fluorescent or luminous.

I don't doubt the validity of it, but could you please tell me where you found this?

Many thanks.

Tony

[Nobby the Bastard]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=%287%29+The+holder+of+a+provisional+licence+authorising+the+driving+of+a+motor+bicycle+other+than+a+learner+motor+bicycle+shall+not+drive+such+a+vehicle+otherwise+than+under+the+supervision+of+a+certified+direct+access+instructor+%28within+the+meaning+of+regulation+64%282%29%29+who+is%E2%80%94++%28a%29present+with+him+on+the+road+while+riding+another+motor+bicycle%2C+%28b%29able+to+communicate+with+him+by+means+of+a+radio+which+is+not+hand-held+while+in+operation%2C+%28c%29supervising+only+that+person+or+only+that+person+and+another+person+who+holds+such+a+provisional+licence%2C+and+%28d%29carrying+a+valid+certificate+issued+in+respect+of+him+by+the+Secretary+of+State+under+regulation+65%284%29%2C+while+he+and+the+instructor+are+wearing+apparel+which+is+fluorescent+or+%28during+hours+of+darkness%29+is+either+fluorescent+or+luminous.
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[Ste]

The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2864/regulation/16/made?view=plain

[Tony Norton]

Thanks guys,

just what I needed to see.

Cheers
Tony