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Robby Dirty Old Man
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virus World Chat Champion
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Posted: 18:46 - 20 Mar 2023 Post subject: |
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Im not going to go watch an entire youtube channel to understand whatever point your going for now. Suffice to say I think everyone who has ridden bikes for a while, or even just been on this forum and read threads like Stinkwheels Bullet trials bike etc understands that a 50s/60s/70s era bike will require constant finessing and maintenance to keep at optimum performance.
Where I disagree with you is the same as most posters here, An 80s air-cooled jap can be amazingly reliable on just basic regular maintenance and wont overheat half as much as your suggesting (maybe highly strung air-cooled 2ts aside).
You mention parts availability also; In my experience if your not too hung up on keeping a 40 year old bike in mint condition then yeah, perfectly serviceable parts are available 2nd hand in general. Obviously this is model dependent but for your run of the mill not 'ultra rare special edition' kind of stuff you can keep them going perfectly fine.
Is a 15 year old CBF500 a more sensible way of getting around ULEZ at a reasonable cost? Yes
Are 80s bikes as bad to daily as you keep bleating on about? No. ____________________ own: 81 xs1100g...
owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance. |
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Pete. Super Spammer
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An air cooled bike doing 20 is only generating enough power to do 20, and the associated heat also. They don't have any problems with cooling generally even if they are in standing traffic. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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A100man World Chat Champion
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B,b,but! I just checked my two historics (the V5 says they are) on here:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/
and both came back as NOT exempt Meanwhile a historic campervan came back ok
Is there some other step needed other than just getting the V5 changed? ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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dn38416 Nitrous Nuisance
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Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
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slowasyoulike Scooby Slapper
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Bhud wrote: | But it could be anything - a demonstration, an incident, or whatever. If there's a big build-up of traffic, a motorbike could be held up for quite a long time. In that situation, imagine you filter forwards as much as you can. You don't know when traffic will move. You switch off the engine after a few minutes. You think it will move so you turn it on again. You move forward a few metres. You wait several minutes, turn it off, etc. You just don't know how close you are to having a problem, if you have an aircooled bike, in that situation. What if it's a 40+ degree day, like in 2022? There is that uncertainty there. Most of the time, it will be fine. But how "most"? Is, for example, a 1 out of 50 possibility of failure an acceptable probability for a commuter? |
This, with all due respect, is paranoid, hysterical bollocks. |
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dn38416 Nitrous Nuisance
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dn38416 wrote: | So I disagree, but i'll be honest I don't fully understand the strength of emotion on this thread. |
People are passionate about bikes and I don't hold it against anyone to disagree with my opinion. I am deeply passionate about them too. Hopefully nobody gets really mad but my only point is that bikes like the CBF500 fit the bill, are ULEZ-compliant and are a lot of fun and highly versatile. However, with regard to the much older bikes that are special for highly individual reasons we needn't get into, there are certain realities and I want all sides to be heard. For example, Harley Davidson launched a couple of new V-twin bikes for the Indian market IIRC. People complained that they were crap - just total crap design and poor quality in construction, plus they got worryingly hot all the time in traffic. That wasn't their only reason for hating those bikes, but HD had to quit India because people there were using bikes to commute in hot, slow-moving conditions, and there were far better options available, to be frank. They didn't do good business. Nobody wanted that shit. Design, and quality, matter. Here in the UK, you find people sit on unremarkable old bikes like dumb hoarders, and they earn mine and others' ire. But they end up in the money. That's one point. The other is that Khan is misunderstood - he's not a nice guy nor in any way reasonable, and the historical exemption will be a thing of the past in short order because there's no social or political mechanism to moderate or exercise constraint over someone like him, in this society. So, 1) mechanical (better choices available); 2) social. |
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Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 36 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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