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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Apparently not. I understand that several in his whatsapp group have been prosecuted so it went beyond 'in joke' territory. |
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"A Metropolitan Police officer and his former colleague have been jailed for 12 weeks for sharing grossly offensive messages in a WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard's killer – and then bailed ahead of an appeal against their convictions.
Constable Jonathon Cobban, 35, and ex-PC Joel Borders, 45, were found guilty of the offences in September.
The pair were found to be members of a chat group called "Bottle and Stoppers", along with Wayne Couzens, earlier this year.
Couzens is currently serving a whole-life sentence for the kidnap, rape and murder of 33-year-old Ms Everard in March last year, while he was working in the police force.
In the group, Cobban and Borders were found to have swapped messages about tasering children and people with disabilities, and which referred to Hounslow as a "Somali s*******" in 2019.
In an exchange on 5 April that year, Borders wrote: "I can't wait to get on guns so I can shoot some c*** in the face!"
Cobban responded: "Me too. I want to taser a cat and a dog to see which reacts better. I think the cat will get more p***** off and the dog will s***. I wanna test this theory. Same with children. Zap zap you little f******."
In the same month, Borders joked about raping a female colleague, who he referred to as a "sneaky b****".
District Judge Sarah Turnock jailed Cobban and Borders for 12 weeks, saying she could not think of "more grossly offensive messages" - but bailed the pair ahead of an appeal against their convictions at the High Court.
"They encapsulated the full range of prejudiced views, racism, misogyny, ableism and homophobia," the judge said.
"The persons to whom these messages relate will undoubtedly been caused great distress by knowing police officers find it funny to joke about them in such a deeply offensive manner.
"Significant harm has undoubtedly been caused to public confidence in policing as a result of these offences."
The officers described the messages as "banter" and dismissed many of the comments as examples of "dark humour".
But the judge rejected this account, finding that at the very least the extensive police training they had each received meant they would have been aware of the public reaction to their messages.
She said Cobban and Borders had shown no "genuine remorse" but were "indignant" to find themselves before the court and felt they were being "scapegoated".
"This humour was covert and done in a covert way, to exchange banter in a safe space and they felt like they had free rein to share their views without fear of retribution," she said.
Nicholas Yeo, defending, said that along with losing their jobs, Borders and Cobban would be victims of "cancel culture" because their names have "become toxic".
"If they had committed robbery or GBH they would find it easier to find a job than being linked to the furore of Mr Couzens," he said.
"They were in no better position than anyone else to know what he would go on and do."
PC William Neville, 34, who was also a member of the WhatsApp chat, was cleared in September of two counts of sending grossly offensive messages.
The police watchdog previously said all six officers who were in the group with Couzens are accused of breaching police standards of professional behaviour."
Sounds like quite a few of us (including Nobby) will be going to prison when a certain pervert called Dan gets caught carrying out his fantasies that we all joked about.
Saucy: https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-officer-jonathon-cobban-and-ex-pc-joel-borders-sentenced-to-12-weeks-for-sharing-offensive-messages-with-whatsapp-group-with-sarah-everards-killer-12736402
Silence is violence, you should have gone to the police with your concerns and told them about his unhealthy interests in shaving women, dressing them in knitwear and attaching mylar balloons to the woolly crime scene.
And what about the missing Teffers? One day the corpse will be found strangle wanked to death with a CB125 throttle cable around his neck and the throttle inserted inside teffers bum hole. If you'd gone to the cops then teffers would still be alive, instead you joined in joking about Dan in the safest of private WhatsApp groups.
Careful now.
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Islander wrote: | The met have been institutionally rotten since the 1970s. Weeding out the shite isn't going to easy or trivial that's for sure. |
"Institutionally" says to me if you completely removed all the people within it and replaced them you would still have the same problems.
I'm not sure that racism, misogyny etc are written into police procedures? However many rotten apples there are, I think "institutionally" is the wrong term. Is anyone training these coppers to be that way through officially sanctioned procedure? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Got pulled over in my Chevette. They said there were a lot of thefts from cars and had heard my stereo earlier in town. Whilst one was asking questions the other pulled out the stereo...well more like wrenched it out wires n all.
No apologies.
Was sabbing a hunt (Cheshire forest Foxhounds) and got arrested for likely to cause a breach of the peace (certainly not the case...plus it's a 'flexible law'). Despite the whipper-in hitting one sab on the head with a crop we were the ones taken away for the day...later learned that some police were active with that hunt.
No apologies when released.
Not interested in photo evidence.
Entering a music festival to have one question whilst the other emptied my rucksack onto the ground.
Didn't find anything. No apologies.
Guess those experiences clouded my thoughts... I've also had good experiences.
Fancy Dress party.
Copper dressed in body stocking with helmet (badge removed) that had a tube that shot out shaving foam...Plod as a giant nob that jizzed....very funny when you're a teenager. He also gave me some lovely Red Leb.
Riding back with a half of green in my pocket...got pulled as I was entering the 100mph club...'Follow me sign' Thought Ahh well that's the clean sheet gone and all the etcs that go with 100mph and drugs.
Luckily either he had no sense of smell or he decided to just do me for the speeding (both would have flucked-up quite a few things as it can turn out).
Sat in the back on that volvo was surreal and very smelly.... I used to get some excellent drugs...but now I'm a good boy (3 years..woot) and my body a temple..although ruined...because of the afore mentioned excellent drugs.
Late for work...me and the girlfriend had been on the nest for most of the night. Police steps out waving us down. 48 in a 30. Told us off..Let us off as we looked so flucking tired.
Party....New cop was with us. He'd obviously had his hedonistic days and wanted to party. The rest of us asked when they were back in. Turns out coke doesn't last as long as 10 days off work....so the person partied very well...no kittens harmed.
People who really really want to be cops shouldn't be cops. It's a messy job. Consistency is key ...nowt worse than a cop on a bad day.
Be objective and don't think that only sh!t stuff is going on with people that look or act differently than those with a silver spoon upbringing.
I don't live near London so only pick-up on The Mets goings-on occasionally ...They're a sh!te setup and appear to have way too many wrong'uns. The brand is tarnished...I suspect it'll be re-branded. With 'we now have 'external' investigations into those racists...rapists..abusers...stalkers that we used to employ'. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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Was sabbing a hunt (Cheshire forest Foxhounds) and got arrested for likely to cause a breach of the peace (certainly not the case...plus it's a 'flexible law'). Despite the whipper-in hitting one sab on the head with a crop we were the ones taken away for the day...later learned that some police were active with that hunt.
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Sabotaging someone else's legal (however much you dislike them) activities is a bit beyond peaceful protest, and could be seen as provocative. Sorry, not much sympathy from me on this one. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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The Poll tax when introduced in '89 was legal. A lot of people didn't agree with it...it got changed.
Just because something that was/is deemed legal doesn't make it correct.
That's as much of a rise you'll get from me Nick....if that was your intention. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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Howling Terror wrote: | The Poll tax when introduced in '89 was legal. A lot of people didn't agree with it...it got changed.
Just because something that was/is deemed legal doesn't make it correct.
That's as much of a rise you'll get from me Nick....if that was your intention. |
I was merely stating my opinion Pat, nothing more was meant.
The poll tax was rightly protested against, but I couldn't condone the rioting that went with those protests. Too many people are ready to accept such things when it is in the name of causes they agree with, but are quick to condemn it when against something they believe in. You can't have that in a functioning democracy. Either you are ok with rioting and violent protest, or you are not. I am not, for any cause. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Ain't it the way that mass protest can often result in violence and/or destruction of the very things the protesters could rely on. Smashing up your local burger shop or off-licence..buses....a manifestation of frustrations.
Violence is the last resort with the majority of protestations settled by education, dialogue or pressure. Yet throughout human history it can come down to something like the Kett's Rebellion for example. Or a mass trespass or the French Revolution to get results.
Direct non-violent action was why I sabbed. M/cr Hunt Sabs were a varied group when I was active..Firefighter...builder...secretary..care worker and a few students. I never witnessed violence unlike the hunt supporters.
Tyres slashed on the van..windows smashed...threatening verbals... you know the scene.
The police were amazing and continue to be amazing in their willingness to turn a blind eye.
Hunting with dogs was banned and yet hunts still continue.
It's ineffective, time consuming, costly and at its roots cruel.
I don't need sympathy.
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Im a Sab, biggest in the Village, or so its told,
Some ya ya`s came over from Notts to run a supposed scented (fake) hunt, But i got footage of them chasing a live fox, so i did something about it, I tried to speak to the head yaya, with his horn and he literally jumped the hedge and fecked off,
Drove home and flagged down a local plod car that was about, two of the finest police officers you can train were questioned about the hunt, I asked where they were and they actually told me, I informed them they shouldnt go too far as there may be issues,
As I shot off one of my neighbours saw the interaction and said the two coppers looked at each other, shook their heads and shot off, in the opposite direction, wanted nothing to do with it,
So I got the TT250R out and made chase over the fields, he was fecking shocked to see me again, after we had words I blocked all their vehicles in for around 2 hours,
It was all over their Facebook about this Sab(Me) and I have to say they havent been back again.
And I have a few stories about bad coppers, but I actually dated a female officer for some time, and the stories I heard only made my hatred for them greater.
I did get my own back once, a story that made page 3 of the Sun, back when there were topless ladies on the same page, no I wasnt the model . . . . |
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Howling Terror wrote: | Ain't it the way that mass protest can often result in violence and/or destruction of the very things the protesters could rely on. Smashing up your local burger shop or off-licence..buses....a manifestation of frustrations.
Violence is the last resort with the majority of protestations settled by education, dialogue or pressure. Yet throughout human history it can come down to something like the Kett's Rebellion for example. Or a mass trespass or the French Revolution to get results.
Direct non-violent action was why I sabbed. M/cr Hunt Sabs were a varied group when I was active..Firefighter...builder...secretary..care worker and a few students. I never witnessed violence unlike the hunt supporters.
Tyres slashed on the van..windows smashed...threatening verbals... you know the scene.
The police were amazing and continue to be amazing in their willingness to turn a blind eye.
Hunting with dogs was banned and yet hunts still continue.
It's ineffective, time consuming, costly and at its roots cruel.
I don't need sympathy.
Protest and survive. (Nicked that from the band Discharge who nicked it from Edward Palmer Thompson). |
Tbh Pat, I'm getting a bit tired of protests over this and protests over that. It seems sometimes it's all we ever hear about. Don't these people have lives to get on with? There's nothing less impressive than a professional protestor.
Having said that, if you're protesting about something that directly affects you, that I can understand. But half these folk could go away and do their thing and they'd never know anything about some of the stuff they protest about.
"Activism" is becoming tainted, s dirty word in my book lately. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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