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PostPosted: 19:00 - 22 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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His board is old, I don't even know if that chipset has PCI-E 4.0... hence the suggestion if hes looking to upgrade, he might want something outside of what he currently has at the core.

Can't see a processor mentioned, but I am guessing at a ryzen 2600/2700x? You'd want a decent Ryzen to not bottleneck the 3070, even though the ZOTAC one isn't amazing, a bottleneck is a bottleneck. Add on the power at max juice, its recommended to run 650w, it won't draw close to that maybe 250w at cap, but low rated PSUs and high demand cards = short term life.


Fair enough, you make a really good point on the underlying board and CPU being a bottleneck
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 23 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave Returnal a quick whirl and it got really upset with my system (although it does actually run.) Anyhoo, the benchmark system gives a really extensive analysis and I could see the only bottleneck was my creaky old 1050ti. CPU & main system memory were barely touched (7th gen i5 IIRC.)
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 23 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I gave Returnal a quick whirl and it got really upset with my system (although it does actually run.) Anyhoo, the benchmark system gives a really extensive analysis and I could see the only bottleneck was my creaky old 1050ti. CPU & main system memory were barely touched (7th gen i5 IIRC.)


Top SKU on the 7th Gen i5's was the 7600K so even using a 1050Ti the bottleneck is only 33% at 1080p.

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0L50VZ/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/

Going 2060S would be optimal as there would be no bottleneck but anything above a 2060S would mean your CPU is now the bottleneck. Using the 3060 you're CPU is bottlenecking the GPU by 10%.

These calcs assume you had the most powerful SKU too, so if your CPU is a lesser one then you're probably hitting a CPU bottleneck on a 2060S nevermind a 2070 or better.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 23 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI one off the K version (I'm not in front of my system till next week) but I was thinking of going straight to 13th gen i5 rather than cheaping out on the old 12th stuff then onto a 3060. The only thing I'm trying to fathom at the moment is how much difference the whole PCI 3.0 vs 4.0 makes and related to that whether a Z-series board is required or one of the lesser Intel chipsets would suffice.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 23 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
FYI one off the K version (I'm not in front of my system till next week) but I was thinking of going straight to 13th gen i5 rather than cheaping out on the old 12th stuff then onto a 3060. The only thing I'm trying to fathom at the moment is how much difference the whole PCI 3.0 vs 4.0 makes and related to that whether a Z-series board is required or one of the lesser Intel chipsets would suffice.


Difference is not too much, but added to a bottle neck that already exists, plus power delivery, its pointless going above what you can max out, similarly with bikes, a good rider on a 600 will smash a 1000 ridden by a newbie. making use of everything is far better.

FWIW I just did a complete upgrade hence the old PC sitting there, but I spent more time researching the inner workings of the boards, CPU and GPU to work out the best value to power, but also the bottleneck to overkill. I think I've got it spot on right now as everything is peaking at what it suggests it should, but putting this card into my older rig (Ryzen 7600X in new, i9 9900K in old) I see nearly 40% less FPS. The CPU is also absolutely rammed while the GPU (4080) is chundering along at 50-60% tops, and drawing a chunk less power AND using far less lane capability due to PCIe 3.0, the second its in PCIe 4.0 its hitting the peak.
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