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My worry is that the same problems keep cropping up throughout history and the solutions can sometimes be... dramatic.
At the turn of the 19th Century there was desire by the ruling classes to return the plebs to serfdom - the masses having dragged themselves out of the drudgery of 18 hours in the fields via the Industrial Revolution. And we have the echo now from the WEF (you vill eat ze boogs and live in ze pod and you vill be happy) as the masses embrace the Internet / tech revolution.
The 20th tried International Socialism (Communism) as a solution and lots of people died in the hundreds of millions. And at the same time National Socialism (Fascism) but only a few million people died so maybe we didn't give it a fair shake Between the WEF and extreme forms Socialism I can't see a way out that doesn't involve a very large stack of bodies
The only thing the World hasn't tried at scale might be extreme Libertarianism (Anarchism) but that would mean a complete rejection of the contract society and a return to a high trust society. The good news is the stack of bodies would be much, much smaller. Parliament and Whitehall should suffice ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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You have to admit it's been a rough ride. Most people here lived through the strikes of the '70s & '80s. There but for the grace of god and all that. Brexit was another knife edge. I think we were very lucky that Farage was generally a nice bloke versus having someone like Trump heading up the show
Maybe I'm overreacting but I'm sure they all said the same in 1930s Germany and I have it on very good authority that our current government is very similar to that one ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Well of course there's always someone out to exploit the situation, Oswald Mosley being a classic example, right conclusions but wrong solutions but what would one expect from a member of the Fabian Society?
Working and Middle classes decimated by 2008 crash, the trust society giving way to the contractual, lack of housing, taxes rising, public infrastructure crumbling... do the people not have a right to feel anxious? ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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What's worse? A populist that reflects the feelings of the mob or a "true" politician that manipulates the feelings of the mob ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Neither? You mean both are equally bad or you would desire a third way? ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Looks like my mum's leaving Cornwall at just the right time:
Newquay asylum seeker protests: Violence breaks out between anti-fascist protesters and police
This one won't play out quite how the black-block fascists would hope as the Cornish nationalists have gained quite a following over recent years. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Easy-X wrote: | My worry is that the same problems keep cropping up throughout history and the solutions can sometimes be... dramatic.
At the turn of the 19 th Century there was desire by the ruling classes to return the plebs to serfdom - the masses having dragged themselves out of the drudgery of 18 hours in the fields via the Industrial Revolution. And we have the echo now from the WEF (you vill eat ze boogs and live in ze pod and you vill be happy) as the masses embrace the Internet / tech revolution.
The 20 th tried International Socialism (Communism) as a solution and lots of people died in the hundreds of millions. And at the same time National Socialism (Fascism) but only a few million people died so maybe we didn't give it a fair shake Between the WEF and extreme forms Socialism I can't see a way out that doesn't involve a very large stack of bodies
The only thing the World hasn't tried at scale might be extreme Libertarianism (Anarchism) but that would mean a complete rejection of the contract society and a return to a high trust society. The good news is the stack of bodies would be much, much smaller. Parliament and Whitehall should suffice |
Ahh so it's the left thats trying to drag us back to some pre ww1 society not the right wing establishment who represent the rich elites who stood to lose the most from the process of social and economic progress that gained momentum during the later part of the 19thC and early decades of 20thC. Bolloks. If the left is about anything, at it's most basic it's about two things, seeing that people are paid properly and those same people have a fair say in how a state is run. The shite we're in today is because of the very effective campaign against those principles which has been persued by the establishment and corporate wealth over the last hundred years. You might he doing ok nicely nestled away no doubt in some vaguely affluent middle class tech support role to your superiors but will your grandchildren? Even if they follow in grandads footsteps once the establishment has completed its reactionary anti-progressive program they will be no better off than some office clerk in a Dickens novel. |
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It's interesting how people wilfully misread things
Let's start with something simple, true or false: the 20th Century tested both Left and Right political systems to the extreme.
Can we agree on that? ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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