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Gnman123
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Suzuki gn 125 exhaust over heating but engine is cold Reply with quote

Hi hope some one can help me I’ve got a Suzuki gn 125 when started it runs ruff and the exhaust gets red hot within about a minute and back fires the engine remains cool I’ve checked the timing and that’s bang on any help will be much appreciated
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has it been like that the whole time you've had it? If not, what have you messed around with?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it’s not long started only things I’ve changed are the carb and had the wiring redone at a garage but run fine after both things had been done
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnman123 wrote:
No it’s not long started only things I’ve changed are the carb and had the wiring redone at a garage but run fine after both things had been done


Sounds like thats the problem. Why did you replace all of this?
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced the carb because the float and seals had completely gone and was cheaper to buy new one the repair and the wiring was completely gone had a new wiring harness put on
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever had it running normally?

This carb. Is it exactly the same as the old one? Or have you bought a chinese ebay special and bolted it on? Did you check the jetting and choke diameter is exactly the same as the original?

Have a look at the sparkplug electrode and see how cooked it is. Post pics if you can.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’ was running perfect till about a week ago had the carb on for about 4 weeks now that looks all good inside and it’s a genuine Suzuki carb it’s exactly the same as the old one spark plug is black but doesn’t look to bad can get pics later
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you changed the carb and within a few weeks it's massively over fueling (black spark plug) your problem is related to the carb.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

That being the case, might be worth checking the tappets to make sure the exhaust side hasn't closed up.

Did you actually check the jetting and needle position was correct before fitting the new carb.? A new carb doesn't always come with the correct jets fitted.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checking the plug should be the first thing to do
just whip it out and see what colour it is to get some clues

If its black and sooty its over fuelling
but I suspect it may be white/greyish/glazed and running too lean
why may be due to wrong jetting, setting or valve clearances,
a cheap aftermarket chinese carb or inlet leak
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnman123 wrote:
spark plug is black but doesn’t look to bad can get pics later

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 08 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dont expect me to read all this shit do you?
aint nobody got time for that
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 09 May 2023    Post subject: T Reply with quote

Recheck ignition advance to rule that out.....

Feedback when done.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 09 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please post a pic of the 'red hot' exhaust Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 09 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Please post a pic of the 'red hot' exhaust Shocked

Glows in the dark, dude. Sometimes spits fire! Not normal for a 125 in stock state of tune. For example, I've never seen the header glow red on me YBR, but then again, I rarely ride at night. It's running really good right now, maybe I should check it out. Cool

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52884293475_c6449bbb9d.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 10 May 2023    Post subject: Re: T Reply with quote

bikenut wrote:
Recheck ignition advance to rule that out.....

Feedback when done.


I think its got a fixed pulser so no timing adjustment is possible

Mind you...
I do see a sensor in the parts fiche for a 2000 model which
may act as a tps and if read by the ignition control unit may give some advance when the throttle is opened
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