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doggone
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 10 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something I do wonder about is how stable the plastic is if exposed regularly to UV even in store if not in a dark place.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 10 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always put it upside down if you are in a tent or water will wick up through the groundsheet into the lining.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 10 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

No matter what you do, someone will say you're doing it wrong. There's always someone who wants to tell you what to do, in any sphere of activity. Always.

I like my current helmet, and I've had it for a couple of years now. I left it upside down on my bike seat one day, and it rolled down onto the tarmac. A drop of about 70-ish cm. It rolled a little way on the tarmac. I picked it up and noticed something weird. The surface at the back of the helmet had a crack in it. I flaked it away and saw that my helmet wasn't black as I had thought - it was white. The helmet had a sort of thick, hard coating which was like paint. Beneath it was a shiny white shell - the actual helmet itself. Am I replacing the helmet just because of that? No.

If you drop your helmet it may develop an unsightly crack, too. However, I find it highly unlikely that a drop from a low height will compromise the helmet's effectiveness in a crash. Now, I don't know if a manufacturer started this rumour to cover their ass, but there will be all sorts of IAM and engineer types to spread it around with reasons they've come up with after the fact. It's common sense that visor scratching may occur, but visors can be replaced. I think it probably started as a case of "this helmet has a manufacturing defect because its paint/plastic/vinyl colour coating is cracking off". So where the customer might expect a scuff or a scrape, they see something that would look terrible in a claim for compo.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 10 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally sit mine down carefully the right way up. It won’t roll anywhere and doesn’t scratch the paint on the top that way. However I could not give less of a shit how other people treat theirs. Sit it on the seat, tank, floor, upside down or sideways, however makes you happy. You can play football with it for me, I wouldn’t do it myself but it’s your gear and your head. Zero fucks given.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 12 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Ayrton wrote:
Why would you want to put your helmet upside down? Seems like a good way for it to roll and scratch the visor.


MarJay wrote:

The reason you don't put a lid upside down on a hard surface is that it'll roll away and get damaged.



I should be more clear about this.

On both occasions (pretty much ten years apart) it was a case of my placing the helmet on the shop counter momentarily while handling things with the shop clerk. Not putting it down and walking away. I don't think I even let go of the helmet! It was properly infantilising "woah there buddy wait a minute don't put it down that way" kneejerk computer programmed response nonsense.

I'm not daft enough to put it down in a way that'll have it roll away seconds later.

Plus, the justifications these guys used was the 'helmet integrity' nonsense, simply because the shell is in contact with a hard surface "and that's what can damage it". Please Rolling Eyes


That sounds fine to me. People come up with stupid things, I was once told you cant put stickers on a helmet because they would snag the ground in a crash.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 12 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
That sounds fine to me. People come up with stupid things, I was once told you cant put stickers on a helmet because they would snag the ground in a crash.


Not putting stickers on a helmet was a thing in the 70s. It applied to polycarbonate helmets because apparently the solvents used in the sticker glue would attack the plastic. They also said not to paint them for the same reason.

True? Dunno, it has the sound of plausibility but still...

I always wore fibreglass helmets anyway and my Bell was covered in stickers, reflective tape and pinstriping tape. Laughing

Personally, I stuff my gloves into my helmet because fuck carrying them around, and I usually hang my helmet from a mirror - again because fuck carrying it around. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 12 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are all too overprotective over what is basically a hollow ball of polystyrene wrapped in plastic.

If the weight of holding a 4 pack of beer in it as a shopping basket in tesco and putting it gently down will damage it, then how the fuck was it going to protect my head with associated 100kg of retard attached when it hits the floor at 30+mph?


The only thing along those lines I wont do is walk along with my helmet perched ontop of my head, not for fear of it falling off but because it makes you look like a grade A bellend.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 12 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:


If the weight of holding a 4 pack of beer in it as a shopping basket in tesco and putting it gently down will damage it, then how the fuck was it going to protect my head with associated 100kg of retard attached when it hits the floor at 30+mph?


At 120mph, the helmet's wearing you for protection, not the other way around.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 12 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
virus wrote:


If the weight of holding a 4 pack of beer in it as a shopping basket in tesco and putting it gently down will damage it, then how the fuck was it going to protect my head with associated 100kg of retard attached when it hits the floor at 30+mph?


At 120mph, the helmet's wearing you for protection, not the other way around.


Aye, I see a helmet as weather protection rather than a safety device tbh.
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