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Is BCF politically left, right or neutral?
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Islander
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I'm just waiting for someone to complain that the wrong people have been allowed to vote.


Well said, service guarantees citizenship. Wink


You've been reading too much Heinlein. Razz
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The second world war was 80 years ago. Is Polarbear in his 90s?


You might want to Google Atlantic Conveyor...
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
You've been reading too much Heinlein. Razz


What should guarantee citizenship? Just washing up on a foreign shore in an inflatable boat?
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The second world war was 80 years ago. Is Polarbear in his 90s?


You might want to Google Atlantic Conveyor...


Not just her. All the RFA are merchant seamen. Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram lost crew in the conflict.
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PostPosted: 04:04 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I'm just waiting for someone to complain that the wrong people have been allowed to vote.


FTFY. Universal Suffrage was a mistake.


It was argued that wimin were not able to vote coz they didn't fite in wars.

That changed in the 20th century after WWI.

Although the campaign for women's voting precedes that by forever.

An American lass writes,

"Leslie Hume argues that the First World War changed the popular mood:

The women's contribution to the war effort challenged the notion of women's physical and mental inferiority and made it more difficult to maintain that women were, both by constitution and temperament, unfit to vote. If women could work in munitions factories, it seemed both ungrateful and illogical to deny them a place in the voting booth. But the vote was much more than simply a reward for war work; the point was that women's participation in the war helped to dispel the fears that surrounded women's entry into the public arena" (Wikipedia)
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PostPosted: 05:55 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not right wing, I'm conservative with most of my views. I believe in working for a living, helping those less fortunate as long as they try to help themselves too. I believe in a front door with a lock on it, let those who are friends or can help ,e in, but those who are just going to take and take without any input are not welcome. My Taste in women range from Sharron Davies the swimmer to Iman Bowie the model, but there are some that are just not aesthetically pleasing. I believe in private enterprise, but some things should be publicly owned such as water. I tolerate others views, even if they are wrong, except if they are harmful to me.

I got into bikes because I liked them from a very early age, they were a cheap form of transport and because my conservative parents saved money by working hard, having two or three jobs each so that they could afford to buy me one for my 16th birthday.
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The second world war was 80 years ago. Is Polarbear in his 90s?


You might want to Google Atlantic Conveyor...


Good point.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think we van safely say BCF is more Little Britain than right or left wing.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
I think we van safely say BCF is more Little Britain than right or left wing.


Then who's the only gay in the village?
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:
It was argued that wimin were not able to vote coz they didn't fite in wars.

That changed in the 20th century after WWI.

Although the campaign for women's voting precedes that by forever.

Men who did not own property (working class males) had also been denied the right to vote despite popular movements like the early 19th Century Chartists. That campaign was struck down but the feeling never went away, so when the later Suffragettes led by middle-class women appeared they had wider support and the contributions of working class men and women to WW1 made it harder to oppose universal suffrage. Popular history seems to have rewritten the story somewhat.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:

It was argued that wimin were not able to vote coz they didn't fite in wars.

Seems entirely fair to me. Rights come with responsibilities, well if you're male they do anyway.
Ask a feminist if women should be subject to a draft and watch the excuses flow.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
1918 - Male Suffrage
1928 - Female Suffrage

Fighting in a war (men) helping to support the war effort (women) somehow got subverted to potentially could fight/support a war effort and then to a birth right with no concept of service attached. No wonder then that birth right would be the final thing to go in the bin.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
1918 - Male Suffrage
1928 - Female Suffrage


women were given the right to vote and in less than a century they destroyed the largest empire the world has ever known. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Um, I think you'll find that was actually the Americans.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Um, I think you'll find that was actually the Americans.


The Nazis.

The empire was auctioned off to pay for Britain's war against Hitler.
But Murica did profit from their involvement. After the British had softened up Jerry for them. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
1918 - Male Suffrage
1928 - Female Suffrage

Fighting in a war (men) helping to support the war effort (women) somehow got subverted to potentially could fight/support a war effort and then to a birth right with no concept of service attached. No wonder then that birth right would be the final thing to go in the bin.

1918 was when all men over 21 got the vote (so essentially the working class & many returning from the war), and women who were over 30 with property. Obviously on the anniversary they focused on...

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/wamen.jpg

We'll probably have another anniversary in 2028 when all women over 21 got to vote.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Ribenapigeon wrote:
I think we van safely say BCF is more Little Britain than right or left wing.


Then who's the only gay in the village?

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PostPosted: 08:44 - 14 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was under the impression we were all Nazis.
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^^^Heyup.

We are, but some are more nazi than others.
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Howling Terror wrote:
We are, but some are more nazi than others.

Do you mean that some are Nazi with a capital n and some with a small n? Wink
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^^^ That's typical of a Nazi to single that out.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 14 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm totally gonna steal that: "no, I'm more of a small 'n' nazi" Laughing
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Ribenapigeon wrote:
Ive met a few younger bike owners the last two years and they're choice is driven by economics not culture.


Exactly this, every new biker I've met since getting into it myself has been because they couldn't afford a car. One lad bought a 125cc Lexmoto because the bike cost less than what he was quoted for a years insurance on a car.
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Ive met a few younger bike owners the last two years and they're choice is driven by economics not culture.


Exactly this, every new biker I've met since getting into it myself has been because they couldn't afford a car. One lad bought a 125cc Lexmoto because the bike cost less than what he was quoted for a years insurance on a car.


I wouldn't mind this if it meant some of those people 'got the bug' for biking and became leisure bikers as well. The problem in my eyes is that while we have the ICE bikes now it won't last for long and unless the battery technology and price improves drastically the only electric bikes in the future will be mopeds or these Suron? types. I mean, look at the livewire, £23000, 100bhp and motorway range of 70 miles.

That's just bonkers in bad way.

I can't get my head past the witnessing death of motorcycles like my old Goldwings .
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 14 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
And insurance?

'registered for the road' insurance is possible.

Edit: https://sur-ron.co.uk/storm-bee/

I reckon a top box is well possible on one of these.

https://quotes.lexhaminsurance.co.uk/

Get a quote for a Sur-Ron Storm Bee. Laughing
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