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Fullers1845
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Alternative tyre profile height Reply with quote

I need a new front tyre on my Zx6r J1, the trouble is that the specific tyre for that year is 120/65 R17, and the 65 profile means there’s very little choice about, in particular there are no sports touring tyres, and all I’m finding are a couple of ‘super sports’ tyres, I’m not at all a fast rider so moving to a 70 profile would bring a good choice of sports touring models.
Is it sensible to run a 70 instead?


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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tyre is described as W/H R

W =width of the tyre in mm
H = the percentageof the height of the tyre (not the wheel!) Compared to the width W
R = The radius of the wheel.


It's up to you to decide if a 5% change in the profile will make a difference.
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Fullers1845
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The tyre is described as W/H R

W =width of the tyre in mm
H = the percentageof the height of the tyre (not the wheel!) Compared to the width W
R = The radius of the wheel.


It's up to you to decide if a 5% change in the profile will make a difference.


I suspect in my case I probably wouldn’t notice at all!
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

6mm either way. Forgot to say R is inches.

Tyre sizes are the best example of how to make things complicated.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Tyre sizes are the best example of how to make things complicated.


A quarter inch drive on a 10mm socket Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearance between the tyre and front fender will be reduced if you mount the 120/70 R17. Also, if your speedometer is driven off the front wheel, it will read slower with the higher profile tyre and your odometer reading will be affected as well (probably insignificant).
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.4% difference in speedo reading so only 1.45mph at 60mph.

It will probably improve the accuracy of he speedo somewhat.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the difference of a brand new tyre vs one worn to the bars has more of a effect on speed displayed and any physical difference felt than such a slight difference of a 65 vs 70 tyre?
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd put a 70 section michelin road 5 or 6 on it.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, looks like I'll go for a change, I've got about 15mm mudguard clearance and the speedo is off a sensor on the final drive.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only bike of that era that had a 65 profile was the Yamaha R6 as I recall. I reckon the J1 ZX6 *should* be on a 70 section anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

blurredman wrote:
I wonder if the difference of a brand new tyre vs one worn to the bars has more of a effect on speed displayed and any physical difference felt than such a slight difference of a 65 vs 70 tyre?

Negligible as its only about 8-9mm on diameter.

Though.....

On big earthmovers, fitting a new tyre on a rear axle that has worn tyres fucks with the electronic traction control.
That can accelerate tyre and brake wear.
The sensors on each drive shift see the difference in shaft speed and the ETC brakes wheel on the faster shaft.

So when the burst one tyre on a rear axle, all four have to come off and four new fitted.
Or... the part worns from previous tyre work are fitted in place of the burst.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

same shit happen on pre-haldex mechanical quattros, e.g. b5 series s4/rs4 etc. mismatch in tyre sizes per axle/front+back makes the diffs work overtime, all the time. I had a front tyre blister in the sidewall after a speedbump and opted for 4 new ones.

to mr tyre profile above, dont worry, just fit a 70. its in the splitting hairs category, i.e. doesnt matter in real life.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Tyres Reply with quote

Does it affect your insurance if you fit a tyre different in spec to what manufacturer uses? Do kawasaki say its safe to run a 70?
If its Ok and it won't invalidate your insurance then go for it.
If not, Michelin pilot power 2ct.
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