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PostPosted: 10:22 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: (Lack of) Respect for the dead Reply with quote

Andrew Ridgeley wants to bring George Michael back for a Wham! hologram show: "I'd pay to see it"

This is not without precedent: Tupac, Abba, Peter Cushing & Carrie Fisher in Star Wars...

If someone said "I'm going round to Nanna's for a cup of tea, wanna join me?" You get there and notice a photo of a dog on the mantlepiece and the old bird tells you what a lovely dog Fido was. You enjoy a nice cup of tea and are regaled with tales of how much better things were in the old days Laughing Now imagine instead if you get there and Fido's standing by the fireplace, inert. "Oh! Such a lovely dog." as she pats him on the head Shocked How enjoyable is that cup of tea now?

Holograms and entertainers, digital taxidermy for the 21st Century?
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something akin to Altered Carbon and spinning up stacks would be epic.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: (Lack of) Respect for the dead Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Andrew Ridgeley wants to bring George Michael back for a Wham! hologram show: "I'd pay to see it"

This is not without precedent: Tupac, Abba, Peter Cushing & Carrie Fisher in Star Wars...

If someone said "I'm going round to Nanna's for a cup of tea, wanna join me?" You get there and notice a photo of a dog on the mantlepiece and the old bird tells you what a lovely dog Fido was. You enjoy a nice cup of tea and are regaled with tales of how much better things were in the old days Laughing Now imagine instead if you get there and Fido's standing by the fireplace, inert. "Oh! Such a lovely dog." as she pats him on the head Shocked How enjoyable is that cup of tea now?

Holograms and entertainers, digital taxidermy for the 21st Century?


You seem to find so many things distasteful. You must be good fun at parties.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: (Lack of) Respect for the dead Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
You seem to find so many things distasteful. You must be good fun at parties.


You don't find stuffed animals a little creepy? It might be related to the "uncanny valley" thing with androids Thinking

Everyone's quite happy with continuing to play George Michael's tracks but hologram performances see a bit exploitative to me. I wonder how people would feel about a clone of old George with the young George trained from birth just to sing his songs.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: (Lack of) Respect for the dead Reply with quote

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If someone said "I'm going round to Nanna's for a cup of tea, wanna join me?" You get there and notice a photo of a dog on the mantlepiece and the old bird tells you what a lovely dog Fido was. You enjoy a nice cup of tea and are regaled with tales of how much better things were in the old days Laughing Now imagine instead if you get there and Fido's standing by the fireplace, inert. "Oh! Such a lovely dog." as she pats him on the head Shocked How enjoyable is that cup of tea now?

Holograms and entertainers, digital taxidermy for the 21st Century?

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As the sun began to dip below the horizon, casting a warm glow across the quaint little town, Emma received an unexpected invitation from her dear friend Lucy. "I'm going round to Nanna's for a cup of tea, wanna join me?" Lucy asked with a twinkle in her eye. Intrigued and eager for some company, Emma readily agreed.

Nanna's cottage was a charming abode, filled with the comforting scent of baked goods and the homely warmth of an open fireplace. As Emma entered, her eyes were drawn to a photograph of a golden retriever on the mantelpiece. The dog looked wise and kind, and Emma couldn't help but ask, "Who's this handsome fellow?"

Lucy's grandmother, a sprightly old woman with twinkling eyes, smiled warmly. "That's Fido," she said, her voice tinged with nostalgia. "He was my loyal companion for years. We shared so many wonderful memories together."

The two friends settled into the cozy sitting room, and Nanna bustled about, preparing a pot of tea and an assortment of biscuits. Emma couldn't help but feel the embrace of tradition and a simpler time as she gazed around the room.

As they sipped their tea, Nanna regaled them with tales of her youth, when life seemed slower and sweeter. She spoke of picnics by the river, hand-knitted sweaters that kept her warm on chilly nights, and the joy of spending time with loved ones without the constant distraction of technology. Emma found herself getting lost in the stories, transported to a time she had never experienced but could now appreciate through Nanna's vivid recollections.

The conversation flowed like a gentle stream, and the cup of tea was a soothing elixir that connected generations. Nanna's tales painted a picture of a world that seemed distant yet familiar, filled with moments of laughter, love, and shared experiences.

However, as Emma glanced toward the fireplace, she froze. There, standing by the hearth, was Fido. He looked as real as any living dog, yet there was something off. He was perfectly still, as if frozen in time. Nanna noticed Emma's surprise and chuckled softly. "Oh! Such a lovely dog," she said affectionately, patting Fido's head as if he were alive.

Emma's heart raced, a mix of awe and unease washing over her. She had heard of holograms before, but this was her first encounter with one that felt so uncannily real. As Nanna continued to speak about Fido's escapades, Emma couldn't shake the feeling that she was witnessing something beyond the ordinary.

The tea, once a comforting ritual, now seemed imbued with a touch of the surreal. Emma found herself torn between fascination and a vague sense of discomfort. Fido's hologram remained a silent presence, a testament to the technology that had seeped into even the most traditional corners of life.

As the evening drew to a close, Emma bid farewell to Nanna and Lucy. She walked away from the cottage, her mind abuzz with thoughts about the juxtaposition of the past and the present. Were holograms and digital entertainers the modern-day equivalent of taxidermy, preserving the essence of what was once alive in a new, technological form? The question lingered in her mind as she strolled through the town, the memory of Nanna's tales and the enigmatic Fido hologram dancing in her thoughts.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could probably get an AI to stand in for Teffers and no one would be any the wiser Smile
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 13 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see no problem with this. It’s cementing his immortality and enriching his relatives!
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
I see no problem with this. It’s cementing his immortality and enriching his relatives!


You live, you work, you pay taxes.

You retire, you relax, you still pay taxes.

You die... yup, you guessed it: more taxes.

You live again? Not a stretch to see the theme here Sad
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:


You live again? Not a stretch to see the theme here Sad


As yet resurrection isn't real.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


You live again? Not a stretch to see the theme here Sad


As yet resurrection isn't real.


Tell that to the Revenue Men!
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:

Tell that to the Revenue Men!


The dead don't pay tax. Holograms aren't real.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The dead don't pay tax.


Inheritance tax?! Are you gonna be so pedantic as to say it's the inheritors really paying for it and not the dead themselves? What if there are no heirs? The taxman get's it all - bona vacantia.

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Holograms aren't real.


That's weird. Wikipedia has a whole page on them. I think you're mixing up "real" and "intangible" Laughing

Holograms are real enough to charge for tickets. You think the taxman doesn't get a cut of that just because the performer's dead?!

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PostPosted: 11:53 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not pedantic to point out that the inheritors pay the tax, not the dead person.

The beneficiaries of the income generated by the performance pay the tax, not the hologram.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ermm, surely the most shocking aspects of this are :

a) Ridgely STILL trying to hang off George Michael shirt tails and

b) What he now looks like..

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PostPosted: 15:10 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
What if there are no heirs? The taxman get's it all

Only if the heirless person is daft enough to die without making a will, though...
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Easy-X wrote:
What if there are no heirs? The taxman get's it all

Only if the heirless person is daft enough to die without making a will, though...


Are you implying their aren't that many daft people in the world? Laughing Laughing Laughing

Think forward a few decades. A reasonable simulation of your entire personality synthesised by AI (based off your phone, social media, CCTV, Netflix preferences, etc.) At the very least a hologram of you could be made (Rimmer, Red Dwarf) maybe even an android (Black Mirror, Season 2, Episode 1: Be Right Back)

First boot up...

"Hello, Mr. Fruitbat, so glad you're back with us!"

Wha... What? What's happening? Where am I?!

"I have some bad news, Mr. Fuitbat, firstly I have to tell you... unfortunately you died."

Huh? Who... what... am I?

"You're a partial reconstruction. Let me check how accurate... were you on social media a lot? That would help... one sec... Wow! 97% faithfully recreated... and that's mostly just from your Pornhub account!"

Errr... Okay so why did you bring me back?

"Well that's the other bad news. According to our records you were a bit short on your National Insurance contributions. Not to worry, I'm sure you can work it off in a decade or two..."

Wait! Who are you anyway? Some mad scientist?!

"No, Mr. Fruitbat, I'm from the Inland Revenue."
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant really owe national insurance, your entitlement to the state pension just reduces.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 14 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby when he spots a joke on screen:

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 25 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: (Lack of) Respect for the dead Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
This is not without precedent: Tupac, Abba,


Wait ... when did Abba die? Did I miss something?
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