Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


A2 Using a friends bike?

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

hust22
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 03 Jul 2023
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:33 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

Hello!

As the title suggests, im looking to do my A2 with my friends bike, as the schools charge a FORTUNE ~£800+!

I was wondering, where can I get insured for the session(s)? If you know a company that’ll provide insurance please let me know. I have two choices of bikes to use - a 2017 MT07 and a 650 Ninja 2016.

They’re both restricted and road legal, taxed and insured all that jazz.

Thank you for your help Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Nobby the Bastard
Harley Gaydar



Joined: 16 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:52 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

hust22 wrote:
Hello!

As the title suggests, im looking to do my A2 with my friends bike, as the schools charge a FORTUNE ~£800+!

I was wondering, where can I get insured for the session(s)? If you know a company that’ll provide insurance please let me know. I have two choices of bikes to use - a 2017 MT07 and a 650 Ninja 2016.

They’re both restricted and road legal, taxed and insured all that jazz.

Thank you for your help Smile


If only there were a search function on this forum....
____________________
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Sprint ST 1050
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

hust22
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 03 Jul 2023
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:37 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

Kind of wanted a more up to date response, no need to be twat Smile


Nobby the Bastard wrote:
hust22 wrote:
Hello!

As the title suggests, im looking to do my A2 with my friends bike, as the schools charge a FORTUNE ~£800+!

I was wondering, where can I get insured for the session(s)? If you know a company that’ll provide insurance please let me know. I have two choices of bikes to use - a 2017 MT07 and a 650 Ninja 2016.

They’re both restricted and road legal, taxed and insured all that jazz.

Thank you for your help Smile


If only there were a search function on this forum....
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Nobby the Bastard
Harley Gaydar



Joined: 16 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:40 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

hust22 wrote:
Kind of wanted a more up to date response


You really think things are going to change in a month and a half?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=335470

hust22 wrote:
no need to be twat Smile



The clue is in the name.
____________________
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Sprint ST 1050
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Ste
Not Work Safe



Joined: 01 Sep 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:54 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

But does that tempcover site offer what's necessary?

Try and get a quote from them as a provisional license holder for a big bike that's owner by someone else...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Fat Angry Scotsman
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2021
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:57 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

hust22 wrote:
Kind of wanted a more up to date response, no need to be twat Smile


If you're soft enough to bite at Nobby being a level 2/10 shitlord then you're fucked on this forum mate Laughing
____________________
PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

pinkyfloyd
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:30 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG bike schools are expensive!! Yeah we hear that a lot. but so is a plumber, an electrician in fact any skilled work comes at a price.

Guess what, A fleet of bikes, insurance for beginners with a huge public liability clause, office space, bike storage, a site to train on thats secure and authorised by the dvsa and an instructors wages all cost money.

Then take into account the instructor has trained and is continiously assessed.

but yes we are expensive. Makes me wonder why I live in my overdraft and I am not fkin rich... oh wait...

but sure, as Ste said, check out prices of temporary provisional insurance on your friends bike. Do it yourself, if you are lucky you'll get through it. if not you'll spend more and more money.

Or you could use a bike from a company with an instructor who will teach you valuable life skills, and is actually quallified to teach.

But yeah we aint cheap, but as I said, neither is a plumber.
____________________
illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Easy-X
Super Spammer



Joined: 08 Mar 2019
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:46 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what I'd charge for a day's work and I can't say bike schools look that unreasonable. With cars it's just one vehicle with the instructor in the passenger seat possibly with dual controls. No such option for motorbikes - nature of the beast - unless you think instructors would be mad enough to ride pillion with a n00b (if that was even legal.)
____________________
Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

pinkyfloyd
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:52 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
I know what I'd charge for a day's work and I can't say bike schools look that unreasonable. With cars it's just one vehicle with the instructor in the passenger seat possibly with dual controls. No such option for motorbikes - nature of the beast - unless you think instructors would be mad enough to ride pillion with a n00b (if that was even legal.)


Cars spread it out and its currently around here about 80 quid a lesson for 2 hours, most people need around 20 lessons from talking to instructors. Thats £1600 right away.

I charge more for shooting a wedding than I do for a DAS course as a photographer.
____________________
illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Fat Angry Scotsman
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2021
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:00 - 04 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
OMG bike schools are expensive!! Yeah we hear that a lot. but so is a plumber, an electrician in fact any skilled work comes at a price.


I actually wrote this in another thread very recently but I think DAS is pretty good value for money.

When I did it I got 5 days of an instructors time, probably about 5 hours a day so 25 hours in total.

My DAS cost £750 so that amortised over the course is £30.00 an hour. That covers instructors time, hire of the bike, insurance cover, fuel, test fees, etc. I think that's good value for money especially considering that from that figure income tax, national insurance, pension and employers national insurance contributions are deducted.

OK one instructor will take two DAS students at a time so they are raking in £60 an hour per instructor but it's still not mega money, I can see the schools will have really big overheads (rent of facilities, adminsitration costs, banking charges, consumables, utilities, servicing, MOTs, etc the list goes on).

So anyway most people would grumble but not put off hiring a plumber at £30 an hour or paying their lawyer £200 an hour for court business but when it comes to training they shit their pants over it.

£750 is a lot in an single instance, but considering if you get it even in your 40's it's going to get you a license to enjoy for the next 25+ years so amortised over that period it's only £30 or less a year (the real cost decreases over time thanks to inflation). I spend more money on wine each week that I will literally pish out again. The cost of DAS is fucking nothing over the long-term.
____________________
PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

A100man
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:12 - 04 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

hust22 wrote:
Kind of wanted a more up to date response, no need to be twat Smile


I think the general expectation is a bit more humble on post 2..

try again though it can be fun on here.
____________________
Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Fat Angry Scotsman
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2021
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:16 - 05 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Using a friends bike? Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
hust22 wrote:
Kind of wanted a more up to date response, no need to be twat Smile


I think the general expectation is a bit more humble on post 2..

try again though it can be fun on here.


I think he's already flounced Laughing
____________________
PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

A100man
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:53 - 05 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:


So anyway most people would grumble but not put off hiring a plumber at £30 an hour ..


Cheapo Jock plumbers must use Irn Brew cans instead of copper at that money!
____________________
Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Fat Angry Scotsman
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2021
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:48 - 05 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Cheapo Jock plumbers must use Irn Brew cans instead of copper at that money!


To be honest I've not needed a plumber in years so no fucking clue what they cost now. Embarassed
____________________
PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Ste
Not Work Safe



Joined: 01 Sep 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:16 - 05 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

£30 an hour for a plumber gets you SinghPal.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

pinkyfloyd
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 07:14 - 06 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
£30 an hour for a plumber gets you SinghPal.


Got me some italian fellow called mario. Kept on complaining about mushrooms and crocodiles or something
____________________
illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Fat Angry Scotsman
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2021
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:48 - 06 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
£30 an hour for a plumber gets you SinghPal.


Ever noticed how every tradesman has the same two attributes:

1. Always shits on the previous guy's work, and,
2. When asked the cost will always do the air-sucking-over-teeth noise before delivering the blow.
____________________
PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

TaffyTDM
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 15 Jul 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:05 - 10 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
OMG bike schools are expensive!! Yeah we hear that a lot. but so is a plumber, an electrician in fact any skilled work comes at a price.

Guess what, A fleet of bikes, insurance for beginners with a huge public liability clause, office space, bike storage, a site to train on thats secure and authorised by the dvsa and an instructors wages all cost money.

Then take into account the instructor has trained and is continiously assessed.

but yes we are expensive. Makes me wonder why I live in my overdraft and I am not fkin rich... oh wait...

but sure, as Ste said, check out prices of temporary provisional insurance on your friends bike. Do it yourself, if you are lucky you'll get through it. if not you'll spend more and more money.

Or you could use a bike from a company with an instructor who will teach you valuable life skills, and is actually quallified to teach.

But yeah we aint cheap, but as I said, neither is a plumber.


I was just settling down for a good old teffing but then you just fizzled out too soon. Started strong though
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

adam277
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 29 Jul 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:10 - 12 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my A2 / A1 on my R1150GS.
no issue surprisingly. Did not even ask to see my restriction certificate.. what a waste of time I spent printing that off lol.
____________________
Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

kawakid
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:44 - 18 Sep 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you have a main dealer restriction certificate.

We didn't and son couldn't do his MOD1. (Restriction fitted by myself).

This was earlier this year.
____________________
I've a twin and a 4.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.11 Sec - Server Load: 1.95 - MySQL Queries: 17 - Page Size: 116.5 Kb