Minsk 125. CCCP era 2-stroke commuter of the people.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I had one of these as my first bike. Cost me £500 brand new from Lossiemouth motorcycles in 1994. I rode it for 3 years and passed my test on it then two of my mates had it and passed their tests too. It finally died when a lorry driver missed his junction and reversed over it.

Mine was a dark blue on badged as a Motobeno but they also sold them as Regents cossack and I think Nevals. Looked something like this:
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I always wanted another one and one came up on ebay, it was more modern but the guy said he had loads of them and in one of his pictures i saw a dark blue motobeno at the back of the shed. A deal was done and I picked up a vanload of parts for £450.

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Quite a project but they are very simple bikes. I actually have 2 frames but it turns out one of them has never been registered but I managed to the the registration for the other one (typically the worse of the two) transferred to my name so it's game on.

I've spent the last 4 days clearing stuff out of my garage and shed and transferring it to my new lockup (3 bikes and three vanloads of assorted crap) so I now have the space and personal permission to get cracked into it.

It's going to be a ground up build and I want to keep as much as possible original. I'll need to do the paintwork myself too, they were originally done in enamel paint so I think tractol is going to be my friend there. One thing I will do is fit a Vape ignition/charging system because the original dynamos eat brushes which are hard to get now and I don't trust a 1980's soviet era CDI.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

First job is engine. No point doing a load of cosmetics if you don't have a good runner. I'm going to start with a full teardown, clean up and replace all the bearings and seals because Soviet bearings aren't round. I'll also be replacing the majority of the fasteners which are a weak point on them, I was forever replacing snapped bolts on my original one.

One filthy donk. But oily muck is good, stops stuff rusting.

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10 minutes with a brush, paraffin and a hosepipe and it's a bit more of a state to start work on it.

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I'll need to take loads of photos because the only manual I have is in Russian and it's not all that comprehensive. It does have some proper engineering drawings though. It should have dripped dry enough by now to get downstairs and have at it!
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Good luck with that

This guys done a few Minsk resto vids which may be of interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCsjwj3x3NE

Edit:
I found it strangely satisfying to watch
but at around 20 mins I see he uses cement/oil on the piston to bed it in
Thats a new one for me!
At one point he appears to tap a new main bearing in by hitting
the inner race which is no no for me but hey, its his bike.

Using an old footpeg rubber as primary chain tensioner is interesting.

It looks nice and runs at the end, but without any paint or clearcoat it
will oxidise like buggery which would be a shame.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Should do 55mph. Maybe hit 60 with a fair wind.

Cheers for the link to the resto guy. I may try and be a little less Russian about it when it comes to the build.

No horrible surprises so far.

Head off nice and simple. 4 nuts. No head gasket. As I remember they come with one and you are instructed to throw it away at the first de-coke. It has a spigot so it can be lapped in. No evidence of roller bearing impact damage so that's a plus.
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Piston says it's been run after it was built. I've learned to fear a shiny clean piston because it indicates someone rebuilding then having it fail to start.
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Bore is clean, no smears or scratches, no appreciable step.
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Here's a good sign. Previous owner filled the crankcases with engine oil prior to putting it away. Clapping

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

It's a standard piston, group 2. I don't have a bore guage but as far as I can see, my bore is pretty tight. Maybe too tight if anything which may be why it nipped because group 2 is the larger end of standard.

I've ordered a standard piston and rings and I'll take it up to my local engineering guy to see if it needs a hone/bore running up it. Every chance it's not round anyway.

Got a set of clutch plates on the way from a Uk supplier. Aftermarket ones which I think have metal tangs.
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virus · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Karma :

ah I was wondering how long it would be before an eastern bloc smoker got to you again Very Happy

Looks like a fun little project and a good few spares too?

Bet ya a pint you cant ride it to the dragon next feb Wink

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stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

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Lone-Wolf · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

Wotcha.

Very, very similar to a Bantam engine . . . there again, considering the Bantam's history, it should be.
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A100man · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :

Great work - enjoying the ride so far..
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

It's all going to slow down a bit now. Mainly because I'm back at work next week.

There are some tedious and manky jobs to do now before things can progress.

I've cleaned off all the engine casings with paraffin and hosed off the rough. They're now soaking in dishawasher tablets (If I had one, I'd run them through the dishawasher). Then they need a wash off in soapy water, rinsing, plusgas on the steel parts to stop it rusting.

Then there's the super boring bit of scraping off all the old gasket material and removing the paint.

The plan is to do it with aluminim simoniz engine paint on the casings and aluminium VHT on the barrel/head (garage oven for the win!). Not sure how best to go about painting the casings, there are a lot of fiddly bits to mask. I think bolting them all together than painting it as one unit is probably going to be the way, then I can run a scalpel down the joints while it's stilll soft, seperate the componant parts and bake them off seperately.

I also need to pull out the frame, swingarm, steering yoke and amy assorted bracketry and get them media blasted then blow over a coat of primer (or keep them inside somewhere until I have time to paint). I'm going to be faithful to the original which was all enamel and use tractol paint. I've used it before and it's very forgiving even with a old fashioned blow gun. I now have a HPLV gun so hopefully more of it will go onto the frame and less on everything else.
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Rob Fzs · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

Great thread, love stuff like this because i just dont have the time nor can be arsed when i do, to restore bikes anymore
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Cases all clean and de-greased.
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This is the first time I've had any success with the new DCM free paint stripper. Still took a significant amount of elbow grease to scrape/wire brush the stuff off but it did soften and loosen the bulk of it. Mind you, it sat 40 minutes. I bet with the old stuff I'd have been able to leave it 5 minutes then simply hose the paint off.
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Not a bad job. Once they've dried, I'm going to bolt them together, rub down any corroded areas then wipe it over with acetone and mask off the holes ready for the paint arriving.

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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Engine masked and de-greased ready for paint.

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Frame is a bit on the tatty side. It's got a footpeg bracket missing which will need welding on although I might go down the line of fitting a set of Sammy Miller footpegs. There's heaps of the original footpegs in my box of bits but they are dead flimsy things, a bent steel tube with rubber over them and I haven't dismissed the idea of doing some light trials work on this bike. Then the question is do I wled the brackets on directly or do I weld a drilled and tapped slug into the tube and bolt them on.

It'll need stripping for media blasting and painting anyway. Haven't found all the headstock bearing cups yet but there's a UK stockist if I can't.

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Yokes and swingarm are in remarkably good order. Corrosion free. Still need painting though. Might get away with a sand and blow over.

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I've contacted Vape about a charging/ignition system.
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Easy-X · Super Spammer Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :

With regards to footpegs, if you're aiming to do trials then something that "breaks well" when you end up at the bottom of a ditch Smile

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Easy-X · Super Spammer Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :

They look like bear traps compared to standard pegs Smile

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

I recommend inspecting the frame between blasting and coating, if someone else is coating it. Any pinholes and thin areas will become very apparent. Seeing as you're getting stuff blasted, it would be silly to only sand the swingarm.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Got the frame all stripped down and the threads blanked off with spare old bolts ready for media blasting. The only skightly tricky bits were getting the VIn plate and steering lock off. The rivets seem to have been hand-peened iron and drilled/filed off quite easily though. I could try putting the VIN plate back on after using a hot lost-head nail and chiseling the inside off after, I have no key for the steering lock and never use them so it can stay off.

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I was going to take the bearings out of the swingarm ready for blasting but it turns out it's on a metelastic bushing so I'll just bung the ends. They work remarkably well, I have them on both of my enfields. I also know that there's at best a 50:50 chance of getting an old one out non-destructively, or indeed at all. An air chisel is the best tool for this but since there's no play or slop, they can stay where they are.

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Engine painted. Paint needs 24h to dry then I can seperate the cases and bake them off to cure the paint.
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I'll leave the head for now. It'll need lapping into the barrel spigot which will make a mess.

Paint stripper actually worked again.
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I have a choice of two carbs. Both are correct. I'll try to get them both apart and see what looks best. Flatslide as standard. Head says to use the concentric one. Heart likes the look of the seperate float bowl.

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I've thrown them both into the ultrasonic fully assembled while the paint fumes clear from the garage them have a go at them. They have cast alloy hexes on some of the fittings which are notoriously brittle so no garauntee they'll come apart nicely.
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virus · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Karma :

Id go for the separate bloat bowl one as well if I could but as you say its probably more about which one is in best condition.
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owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.