Ukraine war and when Russia will collaps?

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The Euro Twats are going to pay for DragonFire?! Seems unlikely.
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Particularly low blow even for the Russians:

Ukraine war: Russian double-tap strikes hit civilians then rescuers too

tl;dr fire artillery/missiles at civilians, wait for emergency services to turn up, fire again Fuck UN conventions, this doesn't even square with what Putin's said in the past about post-conflict Ukrainian-Russian relations.

As far as we can tell the best case scenario for the Russians is to steal annex Luhansk & Donetsk, add Zaporizhzhia & Kherson in the peace talks and form a new Russian region of "East Ukraine." Install puppet pro-Russian government in Kyiv. Job done, let's go home lads.

These sort of very explicit targeting of civilians may demoralise but regardless of how the war turns out I can see Russians of all walks of life needing to watch their backs for one or two generations
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The Ukrainians are already doing a few assassinations on Russian soil. I don't think Putin will be able to subjugate the country without some cost. Attacking civilians is bad enough but going out of your way to kill off fire trucks and ambulances? People tend to remember such things.
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Why US, the UK and France can shot down Iranian drones and cruise missiles headed to Israel (I agree with that) but cannot shot down Russian drones and cruise missiles over Ukraine? Seriously why?

David Cameron said on LBC the reason is NATO trying to avoid NATO troops confronting russian troops. Dmytro Kuleba, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, also on LBC said ad far Ukraine is aware there are no russian troops on the cruise missiles and drones.

Its about time NATO to close the air space over Ukraine and start doing its job.
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BBC surmises 50000 Russian soldiers have died since the conflict began. Sounds pretty bad but they don't say how many Ukranians have died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68819853

An American intelligence has it's own ideas. President Zelensky has said 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed since 2022. US officials, however, believe at least 70,000 have died and many more are injured.

Ukraine are lowering the conscription age from 27 to 25 to get some new cannon fodder for the front line.

I can see the US scaling back support for Ukraine even if Trump doesn't get in and if he does Ukraine can say bye bye to US support. It will be interesting to see if the EU (especially Germany) throw more weapons at Ukraine to make up for the US deficit but it's not likely. The EU can talk the talk but they won't walk the walk when it costs them so much.

In reality I can see Ukraine forced to the negotiating table by the end of the year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68840261
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70,000 sounds about right. Russia's losses are probably more like 150,000. That's a lot but those that are left are that bit more battle-hardened.
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I’m not sure if even Trump could be seen to abandon Ukraine to the old enemy. I don’t think he’ll win anyway, despite the best, mad efforts of the Democrats in keeping Biden when he’s clearly suffering from dementia. Trump’s core voters will remain, but he got in last time by convincing a significant number of floating voters to take a punt on someone new and different. I doubt they were impressed enough to go a second time.

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