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PostPosted: 16:22 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Ford eco thingy 1 litre petrol engine. Reply with quote

To the forum car gurus.....

Thinking of getting a Ford Focus rot box sh1t heap to replace my Jag with the insurance payout I got. It has a 1 litre 3 cylinder eco engine which on the good side means £20 road tax a year and on the bad side means it's slower than Brian the snail (for all you magic roundabout fans).

Are they reliable? reliableish or just fcuking crap?

This is the dagenham dustbin. Only done 22000 miles and within the money the insurance paid out as I'm buggered if I'm putting any more into it. I'd rather buy rum to toast my now toast Jaguar. Crying or Very sad

Any comments welcome, the sarkier the better.

https://www.hiltoncarsupermarket.co.uk/used-ford-focus-milton-keynes-buckinghamshire-6072000
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check if it's had the wet belt done already. If it hasn't, don't touch it with a barge pole. If it has, check when it was done bearing in mind the things disintegrate in 4~6 years.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't have the best reputation tbh. They have an absolutely microscopic oil volume and have the aforementioned wet belt issue. They do make decent power for the capacity though.

I probably wouldn't.... I'd accept a larger ecoboost variant, but the 1l one has an especially bad reputation, as I said.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

my wife had one, 2017 ecoboost titanium 1l turbo. (zero road tax)
she loved it.

I felt it was ok on boost, but then it used a tad more fuel, and off boost it was a 3 cyl 1 litre. But for pissing about with it was perfectly fine. Happy little car.

Being keyless is great because the thieves took it without any effort.

next time, try find the magic zero road tax but 2016 manual key version that has had a belt change done but also has the slightly less shitty sony dab radio and its not a CAT-xxx front bumper crash victim- combo.

p.s. did I mention majority of them that you'll find for sale are crash damaged front bumper jobs? The ones that get nicked become instant parts donors.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

my GF has a Toyota Auris. quite a nice car.
shit sound system though.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren't called the Ecoboom for nothing...
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 05:42 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmm i've got the Puma 130bhp 1.0L and my take is that IF you do the correct oil services and use the correct grade of oil then you'll be fine.
Given the number of these on the road, the failure rate isn't as bad as the internet would have you believe.

DSG auto box and it's nippy / economical ( mid 50s mpg most of the time) although i'm not sure i'd want it in a heavier Focus.

That said i've had this from new and i'll be making sure it gets the correct servicing and will be under warranty for the 3 years i'll keep it. Not sure i'd want a second hand one with an unknown history,
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get yourself a Kia Ceed, about the same size as Focus, if you are lucky you can still get one within warranty (7 years as standard)

I've had mine for 3 years now without issue, even got the seat replaced last year as the foam was starting to disintegrate

No sure what the lower trim/engine specs are like, but my GT spec has all the bells and whistles, i'm pretty sure you can get the GT-Line spec with a 1.0 turbo engine
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleFester wrote:
Mmmm i've got the Puma 130bhp 1.0L and my take is that IF you do the correct oil services and use the correct grade of oil then you'll be fine.


Pot luck. My daughter's car was within the timespan on both miles and years and had regular oil changes (at dealers) and the belt still shredded.

An in-engine "wet" timing belt is just a bad idea on principle. The lifetime is nowhere near what was hoped and replacement on most engines is a massive job. Short life consumables should be accessible from the outside of the engine wherever possible.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh it's not just Ford. New BMW without a dipstick and a oil level sensor that's known for faults .....

Buy under warranty or stick with old stuff.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are pretty well all modern smallish cc engines wet belt or just certain manufacturers?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main ones to watch out for are Ford and Stellantis (Citroën, Peugeot, Fiat & Vauxhall) where there used in all the recent small turbo engines.

Easiest thing is to tap [your chosen car] + "wet belt" into Google and see if you get a load of people crying Smile Actually, just searching common faults for any prospective car purchase is such a good idea I wonder why I never remember to do it Shifty
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, nothing new will last. Old stuff is cheap but needs looking after and most stuff is dull.

Some kind of Toyota Corolla Hybrid maybe, test drove the newer shape Rav4 - that was pleasant.

Big old Skoda Superb estate if you want to carry shit ..... but then it's a VW underneath so it will fall apart after year 5 unless you're lucky.

Prius / ioniq?

Do NOT buy a Mitsi Outlander - they are unreliable rubbish.

Old 5 series diesel but then they start to dissolve.

If you can find a decent one, the old Accord Estates are quite pleasant.

Lots of choice, not all of it good.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read that low mileage per year engines are even worse because of crud and moisture in the oil that doesn't get heated off.

Thanks chaps. I think I'll pass on it. Too risky.
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PostPosted: 05:41 - 10 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. Something that's been on motorways is far preferable to something that's been clattering around town. Modern Dervs with DPF do NOT like to be nursed around town, they need a run to keep them clear.

Do not look at a diesel Mazda - the CX-5 whilst a great car and reliable as hell in Petrol format is a ticking expensive bomb as a diesel - looked at one and then read up on the issues and walked away from the deal. The reason they are hard to find in the trade is because no one but main dealers will touch them.

Honestly, the old Pug 405 or Citroen BX Estate XUD diesels were brilliant. Actually, anything pre DPF and pre Dual Mass Flywheels are generally excellent.

Or you just lease something and hand it back when you get bored / the term is up. Once you factor out the depreciation / irritation, it starts to look like a far better value deal.

Once the PUMA comes to the end of the term, that's what i'll do and i'll keep doing that until I find the car i want to run into my retirement.

If i was buying 2nd hand, i'd want something i could home spanner and preferably without a silly collection of computers on board - that pretty much sums up my other car.

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1995 or thereabouts, cost me £800 and i've probably spent £2000 on it over 5 years. It runs lovely and doesn't really owe me a penny, current 'value' is probably what i've spent plus what I paid.
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