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TheGazWaz
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/PO9fYDanO7U

Good afternoon all,

Didn't think I'd be in this section so soon but I've recently purchased a 2013 Triumph Tiger 1050. 14k on the clock with full Triumph service history.

The video attached demonstrates the noise I'm getting between certain rev ranges.

Only does it under load so no noise when on centre stand going through the gears. Gets louder as you go up hill.

Any ideas please would be much appreciated. I'm also on the Tiger forum with the same questions.

Cheers

Gaz
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Re: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

TheGazWaz wrote:
...The video attached demonstrates the noise I'm getting between certain rev ranges.
Only does it under load so no noise when on centre stand going through the gears. Gets louder as you go up hill.
Any ideas please would be much appreciated.


Before any sort of exploratory disassembly, I would check all the motor mounts to make sure they are secure. Hopefully the condition can be corrected easily.

Because the noise happens only under load and gets louder with increased load, I think the sound is likely emanating from the lower end. Specifically, the symptoms suggest one of the connecting rod bearings is loose.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 08 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhaust leak at the headers IMO. check the exhaust all over for cracks or sooty marks especially where it bolts up.

Plus it sounds like your chain is fecked.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'm off next week so I'm going to go over the bike with a fine tooth combe and check every visably fixing, nut and bolt I can.

I'll also check the exhaust system for leaks.

Jeff, I don't like the Rod bearing diagnosis. That sounds expensive. The bike only has 14k on it so I would have thought that kind of wear would be less likely but in reality I have to take it on board and hope for the best.

I will also check the chain condition this weekend. On the surface it looks ok but it's not shiny and new looking by any means.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Re: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
Because the noise happens only under load and gets louder with increased load, I think the sound is likely emanating from the lower end. Specifically, the symptoms suggest one of the connecting rod bearings is loose.


Why would this only happen in a small range of the revs and not all the time?
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Re: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
jeffyjeff wrote:
Because the noise happens only under load and gets louder with increased load, I think the sound is likely emanating from the lower end. Specifically, the symptoms suggest one of the connecting rod bearings is loose.


Why would this only happen in a small range of the revs and not all the time?


I was thinking more sort of camchain tensioner or similar.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Re: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Why would this only happen in a small range of the revs and not all the time?

From what I observed in the video, it is happening all the time. OP asked for ideas and I gave him two. My direct experience is limited to engines much larger than the Tiger 1050. Rod knock on a 12 L. engine that peaks at 2100 rpm is pronounced and at a lower frequency. You might hear it at idle/light load in very severe cases. The condition starts small and intensifies over time; the noise increases with load. It is just a guess and I hope I'm wrong. If the bike were mine, like the OP, I would be concerned. Unless the noise is external, like a motor mount or a loose part, exploratory disassembly will be necessary.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Re: Very loud ticking between 3-4k Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


I was thinking more sort of camchain tensioner or similar.


Indeed - valvetrain was on my mind also. Perhaps the 'screwdriver stethoscope' could help pin-point.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 09 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, that sounds rough as a bears ass
you got any engine oil in it?
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 10 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for you're responses. Really do appreciate you're input.

I think the cheap microphone doesn't do any favours for the engine sound. In between the loud ticking the bike actually sounds great.

Like I say the ticking isn't always there... Just between certain rev ranges. Once it get past those ranges the noise completely goes.

I've taken advantage of the warranty now and they've collected the bike this morning. They'll take it back to their workshop and hopefully diagnose and fix it.

I'll let you know.
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