Kier Starmer's head on a pike...

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...just one of the coming attractions at the Tower of London!

UK and India agree trade deal after three years of talks

This is the 21^st Century after all so hung, drawn and quartered is out. Fed feet first into a woodchipper seems more appropriate for selling out an entire country and its peoples.
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this definitely isnt the genocide of the British peoples.
the great replacement is just racist lies.
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[Tierbirdy]

Whats the actual problem here?

We've been fucked by Brexit, the last lot didnt manage to get a single trade deal done (no matter how much Badenough pretends her 'memos of understanding' with various US states counts, they dont), now we're getting more fucked by Trumps tarrifs. We finally get a trade deal that might actually be worth something (still mere pennies compared to the economic harm Brexit has done) and the ususal suspects are up in arms about it without understanding or having it explained to them what exactly it entails, its just being presented as "Indians can get a visa and not pay tax!" making it sound like any Tom, Dick and Sanjeeb can turn up here get a visa and not pay any taxes. Or that every person of Indian descent already living in the country gets 3 years tax free now.

The NI exemption is exactly the same deal as we have with 27 other countries. But GBeeBees and Farage Inc arent telling you that. They just want you to get mad about the perceived Indian hoardes waiting to come here as a tax dodge. Last year the Tories negotiated exactly the same status with Chile, except its for 5 years instead of 3 but that didnt get any notice or uproar at all did it?

The exemption only applies to workers who are temporarily seconded here from India working for an Indian company, paying tax in India, for a maximum of 3 years, then they have to go back home or start paying NI here. Whilst here they are not entitled to any state benefits that NI provides, they also have to pay the NHS surcharge so they dont get access to the NHS for free.

So what exactly is the problem here? What has been done here that "sells out the country and its people"?

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The problem is this country is fucked and it's fucked because there are too many people. Too few of them pay any decent amount of taxes to expand public services to cope and any encouragement - any - to more people coming in is just insane.

But hey, don't worry though, it's only at the expense of the native population.
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It's only 80 years since India was part of Britain.

It appears we taught them well.
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[Polarbear]

I don't know if this, or the American one is a good or bad deal but there are two things with the Indian deal that worry me. Indians coming over to work will be exempt NI contributions for 3 years if I have got that right, making them cheaper than British workers to employ. The trade bloke says her only expects 1500 or so to come over. That is an absolute lie, it's going to be way more than that as they will bring over whoever they want to save costs. And thats in a cauldron that immigration is a nasty word with many at the moment.

Also, if they aren't paying NI contributions I presume they wont have free access to the NHS. (in reality of course they will).

Maybe other things even it out, I'll have to wait to see what others say to that.
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TBF what it's intended for is the likes of "yeah, can we get the CEO of the fabric company over for a few weeks so we can finalise these dress designs." And I appreciate, in terms of trade, that sort of "immigration" (I wouldn't even call it that) should be a trivial online visa application, "Not on a watch list? Good, on you go."

But like anything, it will get misused. I know this from the curry houses getting busted for employing "students" for more than 20 hours a week. And I know this first-hand as I installed the CCTV systems that unintentionally dobbed them in
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[Tierbirdy]

Yep, like it or not we live in a global economy. Huge multinational corporations transferring workers between countries to see how its done in other places and learn from each other is incredibly common in basically any tech or engineering firm.

These are not unskilled workers coming over to work in a kebab shop and not pay any tax.

They are not stealing local British jobs undercutting local British people.

They are not bringing dependants with them.

What they are doing, is sending a handful of engineers from the Indian production plant of, lets say, Jaguar Landrover, over to the UK production plant for a few weeks/months to see how things are run over here, what they can learn and take back. And at some point the UK branch will do the same and have a couple of weeks all expenses paid pissup in Delhi. And theyll do the same with their North America HQ, and their Asia HQ, and anywhere else they have regional HQs.

Every big firm in the world does this. Theres no downside to the UK. Its just making things a little bit easier for big businesses, less beauraucracy and red tape - isnt that what the Brexit lot wanted?

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Let's not waste time raking over the coals of Brexit for the umpteenth time, what's done is done. Let's look at the current situation.

"People should stop listening to Far-Right rhetoric!" Okay, so what is the problem?

1) Reform, Libs and Greens now control the mainstream media and forced everyone to vote for them? Press "F" to doubt.

2) Reform, Libs and Greens now control the Social Medias and tricked everyone to vote for them? This sounds more likely, if you believe all voters are irrational cattle.

So what is the problem? If we assume 1 million + Bomalians per year isn't the problem then it can only be that the Uniparty have a weak Social Media game. Solution: ban Social Media!

It's up there with Trump being told the Covid testing numbers were bad, "Have you considered doing less testing?"
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BTW the smug c*nts in the photo would also suffer a similarly fate to Starmer. I wouldn't afford them the luxury of a pike though, all they get is just bobbing around Traitors Gate.

After a trial of course, I'm not encouraging anyone to behead politicians for merely looking smug!
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