Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


GSX 600

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:41 - 12 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you check the date codes on the tyres!
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MarJay
But it's British!



Joined: 15 Sep 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:31 - 13 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not posting from a place of ego, I was posting from a place of genuine help. Speak to any longer serving member of this forum, and they'll tell you how much I've helped over the vast amount of time I've been a member.

There has been very little negativity. There has been encouragement to you to not buy a bike that is terrible. I could just as easily have said a sports 600 is not good for your first 'big' bike and I could have told you to buy a Ninja 300 or something.

If YOU see negativity and ego here, I suggest that is likely to be projection. No, it is projection, that's the only explanation.
____________________
British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:10 - 13 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh god Snowflake says I’m projecting, so that must be it.. ROFL.

Moving on..

———

Tuesday I took it to the shop who did their standard PDI & found the front pads were contaminated, so they got changed. Took it for a ride round town to get a feel without any issues.

Took it out for a spin on the motorway today.. with the intention of only going down a junction or two in the slow lane. doing about 50 & it starts spluttering. Stopped at an emergency post & got it going, seemed fine & started spluttering again.. (was fine with the choke out) limped it back to the bike shop and left it with them..

£167 later it turns out that it was running out of juice but the thermistors? (Is that the right term?) have packed up, so no fuel light.

They’ve dumped some fuel in it & it seems fine. They’re going to try it in the morning to see if anything has changed, then it’s back to me.. just in time for the foul weather.. great!

Most expensive 20 mile round trip of my life. FFS.

———

stinkwheel wrote:
Make sure you check the date codes on the tyres!


Tyres are from 2006 but appear to be in good condition. Obviously they need changing but they’ve said to wait until the good weather next year.

———

A100man wrote:
I read the thread and took it all in. TBF I think the guys were trying to advise the best way to transition from a low powered monkey to what in essence is a superbike. You chose the peakiest that pushes 600 BHP/ton with a huge burst of power at 6K and up.

Take it easy and take tentative dips into the zone and you should be ok.

Main thing is you didn't buy an overpriced old tech GSX600F, which was most of the advice.


Yup most of the advice was pretty sound (I showed it to a mate who knows a bit) & I’m grateful!

Take it easy.. ? I’m about soiling myself when I sit on it, let alone ride it. Seriously once the good weather comes and it’s sorted I’m hoping to have a real play & see what all the fuss is about.

And as for what I didn’t buy.. well.. some of you obviously did me good! Thank you again!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:41 - 13 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrypticCrud wrote:


Tyres are from 2006 but appear to be in good condition. Obviously they need changing but they’ve said to wait until the good weather next year.


If you intend to ride it in the meantime, the time to get new tyres is right now if not sooner. I would suggest pilot road 4, 5 or 6. You can get away with slightly older, slightly shit tyres on clean, dry roads. Not so much on wet and greasy.
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:06 - 13 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
CrypticCrud wrote:


Tyres are from 2006 but appear to be in good condition. Obviously they need changing but they’ve said to wait until the good weather next year.


If you intend to ride it in the meantime, the time to get new tyres is right now if not sooner. I would suggest pilot road 4, 5 or 6. You can get away with slightly older, slightly shit tyres on clean, dry roads. Not so much on wet and greasy.


Some Bridgestone tyres & also Road 4s have been mentioned to me this week. I’m not intending to be a hooligan or do track days (I’m too old for them shenanigans) Middle of the road & supposedly longer lasting will do me just fine.

It’s getting MOT’d mid December & will then be stashed away until the good weather appears again, which I think is the reason for the wait.
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:42 - 21 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

After much fretting I got the bike back today.

The shop have basically said the carb couldn’t have been cleaned, or cleaned properly & the plugs couldn’t have been changed, done one mile and looked like they did. (They weren’t pretty)

I’m in credit with the shop so they let me take it and they’ll sort out the paperwork tomorrow. I’m not looking forward to that bill!

Chain hugger on order, that’s another £135.. Shocked (made to order)

The MOT is fast approaching, as well as two new tyres.

No one told me is was going to be this expensive! Thumbs Down oh well it should be spot on for the good weather next year!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:17 - 21 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. "Just been serviced" is a common lie. I do a full service on any used bike I buy as soon as i get it and have invariably found compelling evidence that the service history is a total fabrication.

That said, not always the sellers fault. On the one occasion I bought a bike new, I had it dealer serviced for the warranty period. When I came to do the first major service in my posession, I found among the things which hadn't EVER been done since it rolled out of the showroom were: Plugs, coolant, air filter cleaning, airbox drain, brake fluid, valve clearances and fork oil. All of which were ticked on the service record.

So yeah, I paid dealer full service prices for an oil change and wiping down the engine. They had actually done that because you could see the witness marks on the oil filter cover where they'd removed it. Not the case on the tappet covers, radiator and fork drains. The plug was definately not 6 months old judging by the rust on it.
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:11 - 22 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Yeah. "Just been serviced" is a common lie. I do a full service on any used bike I buy as soon as i get it and have invariably found compelling evidence that the service history is a total fabrication.

That said, not always the sellers fault. On the one occasion I bought a bike new, I had it dealer serviced for the warranty period. When I came to do the first major service in my posession, I found among the things which hadn't EVER been done since it rolled out of the showroom were: Plugs, coolant, air filter cleaning, airbox drain, brake fluid, valve clearances and fork oil. All of which were ticked on the service record.

So yeah, I paid dealer full service prices for an oil change and wiping down the engine. They had actually done that because you could see the witness marks on the oil filter cover where they'd removed it. Not the case on the tappet covers, radiator and fork drains. The plug was definately not 6 months old judging by the rust on it.


The seller said to me that he wasn’t mechanically minded and got someone else to do all the graft so I guess he could’ve had his pants pulled down, but then I got to thinking that the seller wasn’t actually as clueless as he made out.. Everytime he sent me a video, and when I got there it was already warmed up. So I guess I got mine pulled down too..

The can of easy start should’ve been a sign… but all I could think of was that it had only done 1 mile in the last 12 months & 5k in 25 years!

When I started it up last Thursday, the choke was out & the engine was wavering and I still couldn’t see it but the shop say they’ve sorted it, so I’m glad what happened happened.

Crap weather for the next few days so I won’t get to see the results, but from the short ride to the garage & then back home it did seem better.
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

A100man
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:58 - 22 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrypticCrud wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Yeah. "Just been serviced" is a common lie. I do a full service on any used bike I buy as soon as i get it and have invariably found compelling evidence that the service history is a total fabrication.

That said, not always the sellers fault. On the one occasion I bought a bike new, I had it dealer serviced for the warranty period. When I came to do the first major service in my posession, I found among the things which hadn't EVER been done since it rolled out of the showroom were: Plugs, coolant, air filter cleaning, airbox drain, brake fluid, valve clearances and fork oil. All of which were ticked on the service record.

So yeah, I paid dealer full service prices for an oil change and wiping down the engine. They had actually done that because you could see the witness marks on the oil filter cover where they'd removed it. Not the case on the tappet covers, radiator and fork drains. The plug was definately not 6 months old judging by the rust on it.


The seller said to me that he wasn’t mechanically minded and got someone else to do all the graft so I guess he could’ve had his pants pulled down, but then I got to thinking that the seller wasn’t actually as clueless as he made out.. Everytime he sent me a video, and when I got there it was already warmed up. So I guess I got mine pulled down too..

The can of easy start should’ve been a sign… but all I could think of was that it had only done 1 mile in the last 12 months & 5k in 25 years!

When I started it up last Thursday, the choke was out & the engine was wavering and I still couldn’t see it but the shop say they’ve sorted it, so I’m glad what happened happened.

Crap weather for the next few days so I won’t get to see the results, but from the short ride to the garage & then back home it did seem better.


Old-ish bike - sat a long time - I'm afraid that's what happens. Does sound like you were soundly rogered by the PO though. I've met those 'innocent' types before. Rolling Eyes
____________________
Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:20 - 22 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:


Old-ish bike - sat a long time - I'm afraid that's what happens. Does sound like you were soundly rogered by the PO though. I've met those 'innocent' types before. Rolling Eyes



Every day’s a school day!

I’m probably doing the guy a disservice but i guess I’ll never know, although he is being a dick with another prospective buyer of his bikes.

Oh well.. it’s fixed now.. the shop is still in love with it, and I’m falling in love with it… it ain’t the worst ending!

Again thanks for all the support.
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:43 - 25 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all that work has been done and the problem still persists…

Juddering when I open up the throttle, but seems to clear if it’s open for a while or drop the clutch and give it some revs.

Up the motorway to RevsNRelics was fine.. bit of judder but nothing too serious. Thought I’d ride back down to J25 of the M1 but didn’t get as far as 27 before I had the same drop in power and had to hit the hard shoulder. Stalled a few times then whatever it was seemed to clear. Set off again.. back to the shop and juddering aside.. no further major loss of power or stalling.

Shop are ordering a reconditioned teabag filter (£35) as originals are now discontinued. There are Chinese versions at £8 but I’m not going there…

Here’s hoping this sorts it!

Back to Zwift.. no such mechanicals there!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

A100man
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:56 - 25 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrypticCrud wrote:
Well all that work has been done and the problem still persists…

Juddering when I open up the throttle, but seems to clear if it’s open for a while or drop the clutch and give it some revs.

Up the motorway to RevsNRelics was fine.. bit of judder but nothing too serious. Thought I’d ride back down to J25 of the M1 but didn’t get as far as 27 before I had the same drop in power and had to hit the hard shoulder. Stalled a few times then whatever it was seemed to clear. Set off again.. back to the shop and juddering aside.. no further major loss of power or stalling.

Shop are ordering a reconditioned teabag filter (£35) as originals are now discontinued. There are Chinese versions at £8 but I’m not going there…

Here’s hoping this sorts it!

Back to Zwift.. no such mechanicals there!


Are they hinting at rust in the petrol tank? In which case long term solution will be treatmenst with phosphoric acid - otherwise it'll keep happening - filter might be a short term fix.
____________________
Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:16 - 25 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:


Are they hinting at rust in the petrol tank? In which case long term solution will be treatment with phosphoric acid - otherwise it'll keep happening - filter might be a short term fix.


They checked the tank when I ran it empty the other week and apparently it was fine.

Someone has just reminded about faulty Carb heaters in these models. I’m wondering if that could be an issue. It’s sat outside under a cover in this cold weather and then down the m-way. And when they tested it, it had been sat in the workshop all night then out for a spin.

Kinda makes sense to me, me who has zero technical knowledge and/or bike experience!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Kawasaki Jimbo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 09 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:19 - 26 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it could be carb icing at this time of year. My ‘99 ZX6R is prone to it. It’s unpredictable insofar as it will start and run ok but, especially on a constant throttle, in certain atmospheric conditions the carbs will ice up and feel like the tank is running dry. It will stall. Stopped and left for a few minutes the heat of the engine will thaw the problem and you’re off again, but not for long. The carb ice heating is just a narrow pipe feeding hot coolant round the carb bodies but it isn’t very effective. There’s a small filter in that pipe which might become blocked but I doubt it.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:59 - 26 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Yes, it could be carb icing at this time of year. My ‘99 ZX6R is prone to it. It’s unpredictable insofar as it will start and run ok but, especially on a constant throttle, in certain atmospheric conditions the carbs will ice up and feel like the tank is running dry. It will stall. Stopped and left for a few minutes the heat of the engine will thaw the problem and you’re off again, but not for long. The carb ice heating is just a narrow pipe feeding hot coolant round the carb bodies but it isn’t very effective. There’s a small filter in that pipe which might become blocked but I doubt it.


Well it’s in the shop and they’re changing the teabag filter and after mentioning it today, they’re going to look at the carb heaters. Going to grab some petrol additive too. Someone recommended Silkolene FST, twice as expensive than the stuff in the shop but if it helps then I’ve got to try it.

Cheers for your input.. I’m hoping this is the light at the end of the tunnel!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Kawasaki Jimbo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 09 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:19 - 26 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, I meant to say Silkolene Pro FST additive in the tank can be helpful. I’ve gone for iso-propanol from Amazon as a cheaper option in recent years but then my fuel-injected ‘03 R1 has seen more use than the carb’d Kawasaki. FST’s active ingredients are iso-propanol and some detergents.
CrypticCrud wrote:
Shop are ordering a reconditioned teabag filter (£35) as originals are now discontinued. There are Chinese versions at £8 but I’m not going there!

Probably the very same item, formerly made in China for Suzuki-Japan and now sold direct from the Chinese factory, albeit without any quality control inspections. Still worth a go at £8 vs £35.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

A100man
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Aug 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:22 - 27 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrypticCrud wrote:


Well it’s in the shop and they’re changing the teabag filter ..


Odd that 'not a teapot' should require teabag (filter) Confused - hey ho.
____________________
Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:00 - 27 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
CrypticCrud wrote:


Well it’s in the shop and they’re changing the teabag filter ..


Odd that 'not a teapot' should require teabag (filter) Confused - hey ho.


I’m sure there’s a reason for them being referred to as a teapot but I’m at a loss as to why.
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Easy-X
Super Spammer



Joined: 08 Mar 2019
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:34 - 28 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old water-cooled 2-stroke Suzukis were known as "Kettles".

https://www.oldjapanesebikes.com/GT750_field_guide/img/page-A511/toshihiko_sakasume_b1b.jpg
____________________
Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:33 - 28 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

We’re getting warmer!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:07 - 28 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

They’ve gone to replace the filter and found that all the fuel pump seals have perished & crumbled on touch.. so they’ve ordered a rebuild kit.. another £155 down the khazi!

At least it’ll all be sorted for next year.. HOPEFULLY!
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

to v or not to v
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Nov 2020
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:10 - 29 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you not confident working on the bike yourself?
garage labour charges are quite high these days.
____________________
current bike Yamaha Thunderace.
Moto Guzzi V7.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:45 - 29 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
are you not confident working on the bike yourself?
garage labour charges are quite high these days.


I can’t even tell a teapot from an SRAD. Very Happy

I am slowly learning, watching videos & picking the brain of folk.. so I’m sure I’ll be able to do stuff at some point but it’s impractical living in a flat with total cockwombles for neighbours.

Having said that I’d rather the experts get it sorted & then I can tinker should I need to.
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sickpup
Old Timer



Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:51 - 29 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

The strip and clean tank and ultrasonic the carbs should have been a giveaway to the problems.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

CrypticCrud
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Sep 2024
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:57 - 29 Nov 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
The strip and clean tank and ultrasonic the carbs should have been a giveaway to the problems.


Why should it have been a giveaway?
____________________
CBT - Aug24, Theory - Jun25, Mod 1 - Jul25, Mod 2 - Sep25
Kawasaki Z125 > Honda Z125 > GSX-R600 Y
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.11 Sec - Server Load: 0.55 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 141.08 Kb