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numark1 Scared of girls
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Posted: 12:18 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: Supermoto - FAO Yams |
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I want to sell my ninja and get a supermoto. Mainly because 3 more points and ive lost my license. I love doing stunts and stuff and supermotos aren't £1300 to insure.
What are the best, i like the one yams has and any idea of insurance?
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Posted: 12:28 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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You can buy some bikes which are already in supermoto trim, such as the KTM SMC models, but some of the best are the ones which have been converted from an enduro machine, which is what Yams' exc450 originally started life as.
There is no real best supermoto. A lot of it is down to personal preference. Personally, I find the Yamaha WR400 makes a beautiful transformation into a SM (just look at Yams' old one for an example, very fine machine indeed.) Pretty much any of the top end 400ish bikes (WR, EXC, XR, DRZ, etc) make a good conversion, but this tends to be quite costly. The rims, wheels, brakes and such cost a considerable amount.
Other alternative is to look into bikes which are already designed as a SM from the start. Something along the lines of the DRZ400 SM.
Depends what sort of budget you're on to be honest.
Cant really comment on the insurance, I only ever owned a 50cc supermoto. ____________________ Aprilia RSV Mille R Edwards Replica - Aprilia RS250 - Suzuki GSXR600 Supersport Race Bike |
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numark1 Scared of girls
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Posted: 12:42 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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Seriously, shut up Jon. You act wayyyyyyyyyy to mature. |
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numark1 Scared of girls
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Posted: 12:54 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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yeh jon, you sound like your about to retire.
Dom, had a 400 already. I want a bike with wicked acceleration but without the stupid top end. 100 should do it i reckon but with 0-60 in like 3.
Stunts will be kept for private roads of course. |
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So So, it's the truth ennit. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Posted: 13:32 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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You would suit a supermoto as your tall as fook, well anyone is tall to me .
Your zx6r is restricted anyway? ____________________ Current bikes: 1960 Triumph 5ta x2, TTR600RE, KTM200EXC, Cagiva Elephant 900ie. |
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Posted: 13:38 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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Hey, I never said wheelying isn't fun. I merely suggested that doing wheelies instead of speeding was hardly a good deed and lesser chance of getting caught? ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Posted: 14:25 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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A decent supermoto will do about 90 and a restricted 600 will do about 100-110. Both can still get you banned. I just don't see the point.
If you can't control the speed of your bike then you shouldn't be on the road IMHO. |
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Posted: 17:47 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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Lots of people buy supermotos to "save" their licences then get caught learning to wheely and get fucked over with more points for dangerous driving
Supermotos won't get you done for speeding in 70+ really but you can easily get done as per usual at other speeds. So really a supermoto IMO isn't a licence saver at all.. they are more fun at slower speeds BUT only because you change from big A roads to tiny country lanes that aren't even on the map! That's where the fun is.
But yes you can still get caught.
Don't think buying a supermoto will make you a wheely god either, they don't have a switch on the bars that make them wheely yes they are easier to get up as they have more lower end grunt but still takes the same amount of balls to keep it up as a sports bike does.
I prefer wheelying sports bikes anyway hence why I don't ride the KTM on the road any more. It's off road only now, won't be insured as of August and has no tax/mot/nothing.. basically just purely a race bike now. All it needs is the engine
It all comes down to what sort of riding you want to do, as if you want speed, open roads, long distance.. forget it.. or get a street moto like the MZ Baghira etc, still good bikes IMO just not as race orientated/tuned/uncomfy.
Expect 50/60 miles to a tank if you're lucky and that's only if you can last 60 miles without being in too much pain
No security, forget leaving it anywhere/parking up...
Insurance is still relatively high.. my KTM was £700 to insure FUCKERs because they class them as "high risk of theft" due to no ignition etc.. can't win!!! The R6 was a grand to insure and they still wanted £700 for a 450?
No wonder I didn't tell them it was bored out to 525 and generally speeded up
Think about it long and hard mate, you're welcome to a go on my KTM at some point in MX trim at J40 m25 place to see what it's like but I can't think of anywhere you can ride it in supermoto trim unless I take it to J40 in SM trim??
Engine should be rebuild in a few weeks FINALLY as I have all the parts etc now... that's another thing, if you break it!! expect to pay shit loads.
The KTM has cost me nearly £5.5/6k (including buying it) now and I've only ridden it for 40 miles altho I didn't /have/ to go 525
I'd say an ideal bike for you is a KTM Duke 2.. absolutely gorgeous bikes, especially in black. Lower state of tune, bigger engine, so still fast and slightly more reliable than the 525 etc. Can be bought for £3k ish or so and generally look great/look fun to ride. I'd buy one myself to be honest but a duke 2 won't be much good for racing. You do have to sacrifice a lot of riding types such as motorways (don't even go on one, painful and stupid ) and touring/long distance is out of the question too.
But they ARE good fun, and track days are so much cheaper, plus they really are a go anywhere bike.. take them offroad, on road whatever they'll pretty much cope with most but the roughest stuff.
The WR400 is a good bike, I loved mine as it was wicked for wheelying, I haven't found a better wheely bike than that yet sooo smooth and easy to get up to BP (mine was anyway after a lot of practice! )
But these type of motards need regular oil changes and lots of maintence/servicing so I'm learning!! ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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Posted: 19:54 - 27 Jun 2005 Post subject: |
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Thats what i need, thanks yams.
Dom_ i can control my bike and i don't need/give a shit about that. but the extra speed is there and even more will be when its derestricted so occasionally i will want to go for a quick blast. Supermotos top end are 90-100 which is alot more sensible.
All i would use it for is driving around for fun. Go anywhere really and to learn to stunt properly. I can my ninja abit but to drop it would cost loads compared to SM because they are alot more durable.
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