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Petem
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: New to Cub C90 need your help Reply with quote

Hi i got a C90 at the beggining of summer from a friend that had it in his barn for more the 20 years...

i got to clean the carburator and i have changed the oil,cleaned the gas thank and hose

Now i need to identify the bike itself..
i know its a honda Cub C90 from my research on the web..

but i dont know what year

where can i find info on identifying the years it was made..

and is there a place i can download the service manual for it..
i found links to many manual here..but could not figure out if one was good for my oldies..

it was surely made in the 60's..the only thing that need to be fix visually is the seat cover that is lighly damaged..

restauring this old thing will be my project for the long winter in here..(i live close to Montreal,Quebec,canada...)

thanks for all the help i will receive from you guys

p.s. sorry for the way i type..my first language is french...
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the chassis number (it should be stamped into the right hand side of the headstock) and give your local Honda dealer a call - they should be able to tell you the year of manufacture from that. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only number i found is C90E-145240

does it look like it?
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats probably it, give your Honda dealer a call and see what they say.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could most definatly be it. Where did you find it? It will be stamped into the metal on the frame (just above the front forks).
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it right on the right side on the motor casing

thanks for the info..again

i sent the number by email to my honda dealer

hopefully i will find a few other thing,like the type of spark plug(the one in it is so old the numer on it are unreadeble)

i think that the coil for ignition is dead too...

probably because of me..i didnt knew if it was a 6 or 12 volt battery in it cause it was missing so i putted a variable power supply on it..the light went on at 6v but were kind of lown is i cranked up the power supply to 12 volts..then i cranked it...to check for fire...

it did worked but only 3 time then nothing...

from what i can see its the really the coil..i found a wiring diagram that looks like the one for my byke...

will confirm when i will know the years this thing was made..
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that number was on the motor then it will be the engine number. They should still be able to get you the year from that though.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found some other number on the frame just on top of the motor..on the left side

the number is C90-B049128

will send it to the dealer too..
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petem wrote:
the only number i found is C90E-145240

does it look like it?


There you go then. It is a C90E.

If it was made in the 60's it will have a round headlight, round indicators and is NOT a Cub 90, the old ones are a plain ordinary C90. This is an important distinction because there is a C90E and a C90E-cub. There are around twenty years between the two.

Pre 1976, they have round headlamps, post 1976 they have square ones. There are some seemingly minor but important differences in the engines.

The Haynes manual covers all the models and contains all the info you will need. They come up on ebay regularly and are still in print. If it is a post 1976 bike you only need the last chapter in the book.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it an old one, have a good look up under the back mudguard where the fuel tank joins. They are a pressed steel frame and can start to come apart here.

Hopefully you will find it has already been welded up in there and given a good thick coat of paint. If it hasn't been done, be aware that this is a very common MOT fail and is one of the first places the inspector will look.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Petem wrote:
the only number i found is C90E-145240

does it look like it?


There you go then. It is a C90E.

If it was made in the 60's it will have a round headlight, round indicators and is NOT a Cub 90, the old ones are a plain ordinary C90. This is an important distinction because there is a C90E and a C90E-cub. There are around twenty years between the two.

Pre 1976, they have round headlamps, post 1976 they have square ones. There are some seemingly minor but important differences in the engines.

The Haynes manual covers all the models and contains all the info you will need. They come up on ebay regularly and are still in print. If it is a post 1976 bike you only need the last chapter in the book.


It does have a round headlight,the flasher are round too the brake light is rectangular,and the speedometer is kind of square..

i will look at the frame under the seat for rust and such..thanks for the tip
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

C90
https://www.winwin.ne.jp/~phw-iho/seco-bike/c90dh/c90-dx1.jpg

Cub 90 (minus engine)
https://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/bikeshite/images/2-picture1.jpg?0.43596751427572034
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow i never knew that stinkwheel. Surprised
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a few photo about the beast Wink

https://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL888/3959092/8201891/109356614.jpg

https://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL888/3959092/8201891/109356578.jpg

https://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL888/3959092/8201891/109356543.jpg

some cover of the moter are removed..wanted to take a look at it,will be removing the whole motor this week
(if the wife is not too much on my back) Wink

so that i can really check it all...

since it was stored for a loooooong time i will change the piston ring and pass some stone to make it smooth in it..
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you have a manual.

If you are taking the engine out and apart, make sure you clean out the centrefugal oil filter. It is often neglected and can have a surprising amount of junk in it.

Tidy looking example. I think that was made in 1967 so for a 38 year old bike, it is in very good nick.
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PostPosted: 02:16 - 22 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

almost no rust showing at all

this bike have 6962 miles on it..

like i said it was in a barn under a large amount of straw..
(the straw feel on it slowly for years..)

and they found it back when they had to clean the place cause they were selling the barn

for 20.00$ canadian.(not even 15 euro) i am sure it was a good deal...

in fact it was more to pay for the gas to bring it at my home then for the bike itself
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 22 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it. Cool
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

Now if i could find a manual for this bike..i would feel a lot more secure to play with it...

One small question...

do you think i should chnage the color of it?

i am thinking of the Honda red..

And anyone know of a way to clean the plastic leg covers...same with the 2 small plastic cover on each side(not on the photo)...
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petem wrote:
20.00$ canadian


Wow! That's less than a tenner. You could probably make that back by selling one of the wheels on ebay.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd stick to the original colour, you have a very nice example of an old C90 there that you could keep original throughout.

You may be able to download a manual off the internet, but when you include the cost of printing and binding it you may as well buy a secondhand one off ebay. Its the most popular vehicle in history, so you should have no trouble finding a second hand manual.

To clean the plastic leg covers you might get away with leaving them overnight in a lot of water with some biological washing powder. Probably have to leave them in the bath, its going to be the only container big enough.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't change the colour. It is original and unusual.

You'd probably even get away with using a mild abrasive like T-cut rubbing compound on the leg shields (try it in a small area first) or new ones aren't all that expensive. My grandmother would probably have told you to use lemon juice.

I presume you are in Canada? over here parts for them are dirt cheap from https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk I think they may dispatch overseas too.

The C90 has a real cult following and rightly so because they are the best bike in the world, a C90 will go anywhere...slowly but it will get you there.

Manual on Amazon for $17.79US
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, C90, memories of my first ever garden bike.

That's really tidy, especially for one that's that old.

Keep it original, it looks cool. Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 24 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the feedback..look like i was about to do something bad.. Wink

we dont have much of those around and my Honda dealer didnt even answered my email...Sad

i will try to find more info with dealers that are overseas,thanks for the links...

i never deal with ebay..to much of a trouble..but will talk with a friend..he always check every damn electronics stuff sold there..

I am sure he will help me..

the last thing i need to be sure is the year...

do you know of a Honda dealer that answer email request?

By the way..i will put the plastic stuff in the pool over night..

one of my friend told he that it was the way he cleanned his plastic chair last year..( they fell in the pool cause of high wind and became white as if they were new...LOL)
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 24 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure david silver spares will be able to tell you which year it is actually, give them an e-mail (and make it sound like your going to buy someing Wink )

Very very nice bike, i'd love one myself, they have become bizzarely pricey as many monkey bikes (honda DAX) use the same engines as the c90, which means there also loads of tuneing parts!

Good luck restoreing, keep us updated Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:54 - 25 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.z wrote:
I'm sure david silver spares will be able to tell you which year it is actually, give them an e-mail (and make it sound like your going to buy someing Wink )

Very very nice bike, i'd love one myself, they have become bizzarely pricey as many monkey bikes (honda DAX) use the same engines as the c90, which means there also loads of tuneing parts!

Good luck restoreing, keep us updated Thumbs Up


do you have an email ou web site for them?

google turned out way too much stuff.. Wink
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