Supermoto riding technique

[Kaben]

I am looking at getting a KTM 950 supermoto once i have passed my test/become confident on the fazer 600 (so not for a long while yet lol ).
Looking at magazines etc, it seems there is a different technique to riding supermoto's than on "usual" roadbikes --I.e people stick their feet out round corners. Is this because of the height of the bike? Or can they still be ridden normally, with knees being lent out? or is it combination of the two??
Its just that, sticking your foot out at speeds seems a little unsafe to me, and would probably grab some unwanted attention quite rapidly??

Hope one of you supermoto riders can clear this up for me,

Kaben
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[Kaben]

https://www.motoplanete.com/ktm/950-supermoto.php

This is the 950 supermoto, tis a little larger than your average one.
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[Sparks!]

Just ride it however you feel most comfortable.

Leg out and stuff is mostly for track or faster road riding, it does feel more stable even around town and stuff but it's not /neccessary/ on the road (or track at times to be honest, but leaving your foot on the peg can trap it between engine and tarmac!)
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[Kaben]

how come it (your foot) can get trapped on a 'moto and not on other bikes? Also just thinking what boots i would need you see.....
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[Aikman666]

i suppose the sticking the leg out gives more stability when cornering, youve got to remember that supermoto's have alot smaller
wheelbases than sports bike, so cannot keep traction when being leant over, mostly because you simply cant lean over off road, nomatter how wide your tyres. Scince supermoto's evolved from offroad bikes, i could assume this is just a side affect. I dont suppose you "need" to stick your leg down, but it would be more stable. As for your boot getting stuck, thats bs, it can just as easily get stuck in a sports bike, the only difference being is that a supermoto hasnt got fairing covering the main body of the bike so you could get cought in all of the parts that fairing would usually cover.
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[Kaben]

Right, well that picture told pretty much the whole story lol. cheers for the replies guys.

So for on-road use, would you suggest Mx-boots or "normal" ones?
The MX-boots dont have toe sliders for instance, but have strange metal edging on the front of the boot and the heel.

Really have no clue tbh...and its not a matter of which is more comfortable.....they are all uncomfortable with my gigantic feet lol
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[philcxiv]

Not that I have much experience but did do motocross. The idea was to try and keep vertical as possible but let the bike lean over. When on the road puting your leg out is maybe not necssary apart when its tight turns. When you do thou for good grip the foot that is still on the peg apply you weight to it. Just something I was told and did when I had my crosser.

That bike looks great aswell
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[palmer]

That is a BIG bike kaben. you would be able to ride that like a normal bike i should think

[Aikman666]

Sorry, i was getting confused with offroad bikes there
But i dont care what they say, you CANNOT lean when your doing offroading, or at least you couldent with my bike Its quite fun hitting the ground and watching your bike slide along beside you though! Trust me! ive been there!
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[Kaben]

been looking through the net, and these sidi boots look ace. Bloody expensive though but as they have replaceable soles, maybe worth it Possibly a bit long for road use also....

https://www.motonation.com/supermotosolesystem.htm
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[philcxiv]

Space boots. Wouldnt pay that for boots, any boot that offers ankle support and protection is efficient. If you get crosser boots with the metal bit at front its great for some sparks, wear quick thou.

EDIT: saw it wrong, price aint too bad.
spent that on my mx boots.
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[Korn]

Err, that's a berm dude.

Or to put it another way extreme positive camber. You can get pretty damn near horizontal on a big berm, but in relation to the surface you're not really leaning at all, same principle as the "wall of death". On level dirt you want to keep your body as upright as possible, lean the bike under you and use the throttle and your weight to control the bike sliding, with your foot ready to stamp yourself back upright if you really lose it.

Example on level ground: https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Slough/P1010046.jpg
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[Aikman666]

What korn is saying is exactly what i meant!
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[goony]

go to supermoto section there some good video on there https://www.redbullcopilot.com/

[Kaben]

man,that site is cool,cheers!
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[llordvenger]

Sticking your leg out while high speed cornering can be useful, as pointed out, you will not trap your foot on the ride surface.

It is also very helpful I find for transfering your body weight around to manouvre the machine, far more movable than a road-racer.

Think BMX with engine

[Spike_R]

i always thought it was for the same reason that someone on a sports bike would put there knee down.

its to make a 'stop point' where you dont want to lean the bike any further isnt it? ... as you cant really get your knee down on an SM on the roads.. (ive tried every day for months before) and closest i got was about 4 inches ... that was so close i nearly lost it so i gave up on that.

personaly my MX boots have got a big wedge shape at the back, i need some new ones with metal rears.
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[G]

Not really helpful, but I would't really consider that KTM 950 a 'supermoto' - it weighs almost twice as much as Korn's one I suspect!

Ok, it's a bit lighter than some of the other big trail style bikes, but I can't see it being that great for most 'supermoto' applications.
How about 'lardymoto' . Weight is going to be similar to a lot of other big v-twins and more than the top sports bikes.

On the road, you don't really need to change your riding style I would have said - if you're riding to the point your pegs go down on the road, then you're probably gonna hurt yourself anyway the first time you find a pothole .
I have found sticking my foot out feels more 'comfortable' when leaning sometimes and has saved a few slides (intentional and not).