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Paracaine
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
I went from a 50cc scooter to a 600cc Bandit.

No problems so far... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
'Tis my plan too, which is why I'm not complaining to start with a restrictor... Shocked
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Paracaine
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, its the same as going to an RS or a Mito really without the unreliability but with some extra weight!
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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yea, Can u still throw the big bikes around lough? i mean i no u can take courners fast but i don't want a dick on a 125 overtaking me on a country road Sad
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McGee
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
THIS IS A HIJACK:

If i was to move back to the uk (i sitll have my full uk drivers lisence) would i be able to hop on a 125 after my cbt with l plates then take my test and upgrade to a restricted 600 ??

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Its pronounced Jixxer!
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 10 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you haven't got a full bike licence, probably not. I think if you have a full US bike licence it would be OK.

Without a full bike licence (UK or not) you're restricted to 125s, until you pass your test, and I think then you're restricted to 33BHP (technically) Twisted Evil
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McGee
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 10 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Its pronounced Jixxer!
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PostPosted: 03:21 - 10 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
GearboxGeezer wrote:
Only problem with taking the restrictor out means ur basicly un-insured and so if you end up killing someone you gona be paying debts for the rest of ur life, Am I right? Im pretty sure an insurance company will look at every nut and bolt to try and get out of paying 100's and 100's of pounds...


No, that's quite incorrect. Your insurance company will pay out, however, you'll be fined heavily for riding not in accordance to your licence and riding with invalidated insurance. You won't be left with a million pounds worth of debt or whatever. Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:23 - 10 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
GearboxGeezer wrote:
Yea, Can u still throw the big bikes around lough? i mean i no u can take courners fast but i don't want a dick on a 125 overtaking me on a country road Sad


Are you asking if the power affects the handling? If so, then it's only rider skill.
I've never been restricted, ever, went from the riding school's KH125 to a full power Bandit 600, then to a Triumph Daytona 600. I'm starting my IAM soon and I'm now derestricted. Was pulled over several times, restriction never came into it.
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The Dude
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 10 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thing is though. You're still gonna be paying insurance for a group 14 bike that isn't really a group 14 bike anymore because it's restricted. So i've been told anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
minesweeper wrote:
If you manage to kill someone on a bike then your most likely not going to be alive yourself so wont be a problem!



Not true. Around here outside a school some kid ran in the road in front of another kid on a 125, both collided. Kid on bike was physically fine, the kid who ran in the road died.


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Im pretty sure an insurance company will look at every nut and bolt to try and get out of paying 100's and 100's of pounds...


Outside the same school i was taken off my bike 4 months ago. Its still going throughout the CPS but there will be lots of injuries compensation if it goes my way, which it should as it was his fault.

But away the point is there insurance company didn't, they just looked at the damage and that was that. They even paid out for the bike and let me keep it, as it costs them too much to get rid of it.




Back to the main topic of the post, yes i think the restrictions will have a great effect on the bike. Not having any experience on a 600 but with the 500 it was very different when you take them out.

I would get it restricted, ride it around several months, get used to the bike and then if you really are bothered then, if you want to take them out.



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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
My restricted 600 didn't have much more acceleration than my 2t 125.

The restriction is there so the bike is a more manageable step up.

Take them out, and even my 72bhp XJ600 flew.
Top speed of just over 100mph restricted, tad under 130mph derestricted, but got there a hellova lot quicker. Shocked Would lift the front wheel in first.

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riichy
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well you are losing 2/3s of your BHP, don't expect more. You just better hope you don't get caught above 100MPH by the plod, or they'll have you for the restriction as well.



Eh? i have had 120 on the speedo with my mate pillion, thats on my zxr400 33 bhp.......
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riichy
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rookie_biker wrote:
Well you are losing 2/3s of your BHP, don't expect more. You just better hope you don't get caught above 100MPH by the plod, or they'll have you for the restriction as well.



Eh? i have had 120 on the speedo with my mate pillion, thats on my zxr400 33 bhp.......
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Paracaine
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
riichy wrote:
Rookie_biker wrote:
Well you are losing 2/3s of your BHP, don't expect more. You just better hope you don't get caught above 100MPH by the plod, or they'll have you for the restriction as well.



Eh? i have had 120 on the speedo with my mate pillion, thats on my zxr400 33 bhp.......


That sounds a bit quick for a restricted machine, my Bandit just get to 100mph...
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colin1
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
a zxr400 is lighter and its a sportsbike
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really what road car can beat a 33bhp bike?

The other day I beat an imprezza on my restricted SV650 by quite a bit, he only took me once I stopped accelerating since I hit 70 which was the limit on the road I'm not even that good at quick starts!
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GearboxGeezer
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Thats all I want really, A big bike that sounds cool and I can kick the arse of these boy racers and then lift my crash helmet up ( as I look like a 14 year old ) and swear at them Very Happy
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Jamie_ducati
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
A few years back I had a Honda CBR600 f-t (1996) which was full power.

My mate had a similar bike (33bhp)

the max his bike did was indicated 105mph as opposed to indicated 155mph on full. acceleration difference was also very very noticeable!!!!
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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
im gona get a 125cc now anyway, im only 5'7 and 9 stone, So im not sure if id beable to handle one, ill just work my way up to it anyway, its the sensible way...
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Paracaine
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
jonnyt wrote:
Really what road car can beat a 33bhp bike?

The other day I beat an imprezza on my restricted SV650 by quite a bit, he only took me once I stopped accelerating since I hit 70 which was the limit on the road I'm not even that good at quick starts!


Sounds like your bike isn't restricted correctly mate!

I got beat by a Saxo VTS a couple of days ago...
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I really don't know, but i've heard Vtwins are good to restrict due to the intact low down torque, don't quote me on that though.

The Saxo VTS has a 0-60 of something like 8 seconds doesn't it?

I would imagine a 33bhp bike to be about 5-5.5 seconds?

Someone with a more accurate 0-60 time for various bikes restricted please chime in!

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PostPosted: 01:58 - 13 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rookie_biker wrote:
Well you are losing 2/3s of your BHP, don't expect more. You just better hope you don't get caught above 100MPH by the plod, or they'll have you for the restriction as well.


Not necessarily.

2 bike plods were far more concerned with the state of my tyres than the lack of restriction after being caught "slightly" over the ton on an unrestricted GSX-R 600.
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That's settled then, if there's one thing I want it's son-of-a-bitch acceleration for the Porsches. Cool


haha trust me you really don't! out here (everyone that lives here is ridoculosly rich! so my mate has a porsche GT3 and offered me to drive it...me being a crazy fuck agreed! and my neck got thrown back into the sit from the line of the lines and it flies through gears! u get that kind of acceleration on a bike and you'd be on your arse on the ground before you could say ouch!
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